CZ-82, Tokarev or Walther?

[C-Par]

I've never shot any of them or even handled any of them.

But the CZ thread has gotten me worried just a bit.

I have been eyeballing CZ-82's b/c they are relatively cheap.

Walter P1's and P-38s run about $350. Yes they shoot 9mm luger, thats good
but are they superior to their eastern Euro cousins.

The tok sorta looks like a 1911, and the stainless ones seem cool. Not sure about the 7.62 x 25, never been around it.

The CZ has been intriguing me lately.

I'd love to try all three but I will take you guys words.
Which ones have nice triggers, run smooth and are reliable?

 

[Bigdtc]

Easy... CZ82.
Really the question is what are you using it for?.. Carry, plinking, HD??
CZ works for all of them, really.

 

[fivepointstar]

Given the choice......I would get the P38 for historical significance.

the Tok would be the last on the list for me. I have all 4 and all fun to shoot but I like my Walthers

 

[MilsurpDan]

Are you looking for a shooter or collecting? I've never had much experience with a cz-82 or a Tokarev, but my P.38 is my favorite handgun to shoot. Feels great in my hand, trigger is good and its very accurate. If you are looking to shoot with it frequently, I'd suggest getting a P1 since its pretty much the same handgun but a not worth as much as a real P.38

 

[Funbrit]

CZ-82 get my vote all around. Search on MDS, you will see how popular they are with members on here and the price is right. Many of us have refinished ours and even put on some nice Marshall grips.

 

[LGood48]

Couldn't make up my mind either, so bought both a P-1 and a Yugo Tok.
Both are great shooters. Widener's has 7.62x25 for about $15/box of 50 and Lee has dies for reloading.

 

[Docster]

Buy them all....

I've bought, in this order, the P38, CZ52, CZ82 and P64. All good guns, all fun to shoot and relatively inexpensive. Parts are still available for them as is ammo. As noted, the P38 was my first purchase--something special about the P38--may even get more!

 

[C-Par]

For some reason I am curious about the CZ. Read some reviews with great shooting groups plus the price is a bonus. I have always known about the P38 but just haven't been able to try one. Q

 

[miben]

The cz82 is in my opinion the best deal out there now. It is C&R but a modern pistol, takes a 12 round mag and is very comfortable to shoot. It is suitable for concealed carry. The P38/P31 and tokarev are also good but the walthers cost more and ammo for the tokarev is a question now.

 

[Dan44]

I have all three, get the CZ first.

 

[Jimbob2.0]

Pass on the Walther, some have had good luck, mine was a nightmare. If I get another it will be something nazi marked and vintage.

 

[sygata]

CZ-82 is most "modern" (Makarov round may or may not be avail in some ranges, so in MC call first). 12 round mag vs 2 others being 8. The absence of visual rifling in a bore could be disturbing (unles you got US made barrel). The rumor is the original barrel can handle around 7000 shots. Painted (not blued).

P-38 is most common round (keep in mind, it is old pistol, so no P+, stay on regular 9 mm). Mag release at the bottom, and that is like marriage - has a lot of benefits, but you need to get used to it. It is also the biggest out of those 3.

TT-33 is most powerful (see bulletproof vests ratings to prove it), but keep in mind - out of those 3 it it the only one single action. Release button is too weak - that cause a lot of reports during WWII for loosing mags while taking weapon out of the holseter, and that the reason that Makarov had mag release at the bottom. It is small but heavy.

Into this line I would add:

Makarov - thats AK of pistols. The feeling you get disassembling it is uncomparible to anything else. 27 parts (I believe), and you can get them all.

CZ-52 - same round as TT-33 (but can not handle all of them), also single action, cheap (or at least it was), too heavy, too big, bunch of problems reported with firing pin breaking.

Russian nagant 1895 - cheap, but rare ammo, reloading it is a pain, but reliability is great and amount of history behind this gun is astonishing for any Russian. There are a bunch of songs mentioning this gun specifically

Anyway CZ-82 is the youngest member of this family and probably the most "practical" one. Makarov is smaller, P-39 has 9 mm round. TT-33 stands in league of its own for penetration of 7.62x25 round....

 

[Jack Ryan]

I recommend the Walther's P38 or P1, they are the best quality C&R pistols available, plus they chamber a 9MM Luger round which is readily available, cheap, and compatable with modern handguns.

I have both the P38 and P1 and never had a problem with either one.

 

[KMK1862]

If you get a P1, try to get a later model with the hex-bolt in the frame.

P.38 is an awesome pistol, I like the design. Robust and accurate.