current ATF wait time

[John from MD]

I'm still waiting from 6/21.

 

[Bertfish]

Two and a half years ago I received a batch order with the oldest being 5 months and the newest being 3. So as much as people look to blame the start up of the efile it’s really irrelevant. Over a decade ago I waited over a year for my first stamp. I’m looking at this transition as a positive move. And with any transition they’ll be some hiccups.

I agree the transition is beneficial. They're still lying fvcks regarding how they'd handle the e forms initially

 

[DaemonAssassin]

just like last time, batch approvals are jumping the line regularly again, no problem if the oldest is around the date most are seeing, but have seen a ton lately where the oldest is within 6 months. Of course the E4s are already averaging around 3 months, meanwhile single paper 4s collect dust at a year or more. One guy waits on a F4 for 12 months, The ATF jumps the line with 3X batch approvals at 4 months, runs a single background check, and the wait instantly drops to 6 months, they pat themselves on the back, and wonder why we are whining about year long waits.

Yet I have 4 in the pipeline that went pending in less than 3 weeks for all of them. Their logic for jumping the way the are is ludicrous.

 

[Susquehannabum]

Picked my can up today. form 4 e-filed on 1-26. Approved on 4-18
Last one took 11 months.
Guys in the shop just got back a paper form 4 filed in 4-20-2021, A year to the day.
Shouldn't have to wait at all but 90 days is a lot better than a year,

 

[John from MD]

Yet I have 4 in the pipeline that went pending in less than 3 weeks for all of them. Their logic for jumping the way the are is ludicrous.

Logic? The word has no meaning when applied to big government oversight.

 

[lazarus]

Picked my can up today. form 4 e-filed on 1-26. Approved on 4-18
Last one took 11 months.
Guys in the shop just got back a paper form 4 filed in 4-20-2021, A year to the day.
Shouldn't have to wait at all but 90 days is a lot better than a year,

Making me think even though I was thinking once my 45 can breaks NFA I'd have my trifecta and I wouldn't need more cans (I already have a 30 cal and rimfire). But I am feeling like at some point I need to get a 4th, just to experience getting it in 2-3 months (I am trying to be optimistic about 2 months, if I say submitted in a year or so).

 

[River02]

I'm still waiting from 6/21.

5/21 for me...getting antsy--- hell I'd like to shoot it before I pass.

 

[Buster Brown]

Check cashed 4/8/21..still waiting. I'm close to calling if something doesn't happen soon.

 

[DaemonAssassin]

Check cashed 4/8/21..still waiting. I'm close to calling if something doesn't happen soon.

Be prepared to wait on hold for at least 30 minutes.

 

[DaemonAssassin]

4/14, 4/27, 4/27, 5/3, all 2021. Still pending.

They approve in the order received, my ass...

I'm about to reach out to my congress critter over this, if I don't see at least one approval by the end of the week.

 

[RRomig]

I would’ve thought you’d seen a batch approval a couple months ago. GL

 

[DaemonAssassin]

I would’ve thought you’d seen a batch approval a couple months ago. GL

After they slow walked March for 5 months, they appear to have been slow walking April and jumping to May-Dec for approvals, so they can keep saying 8 months for approvals. But then there were the people saying that they had to test the eForms system, yet they weren't testing it, they were rolling out full approvals, and in the process slowing down the paper form 4's.

The 200 we pay for each stamp should get us some kind of speedy service on this, since NFA Branch needs us more than we need them.

 

[RRomig]

Oh I’m one of the guys that definitely thinks they need to run / test efiles constantly. The systems that I deal with regularly are constantly getting updated. Hell look at our phones and computers. If they were to let all that data stew for a year then dive in it’d take us back to the stone ages. I’m past 90 on some efiles so they are Not doing them steady. I’m grateful mine got done but I would’ve gladly changed spots with customers and friends that are still waiting. Oldest paper I have right now is at a year. GL

 

[RRomig]

DT

 

[DaemonAssassin]

Oh I’m one of the guys that definitely thinks they need to run / test efiles constantly. The systems that I deal with regularly are constantly getting updated. Hell look at our phones and computers. If they were to let all that data stew for a year then dive in it’d take us back to the stone ages. I’m past 90 on some efiles so they are Not doing them steady. I’m grateful mine got done but I would’ve gladly changed spots with customers and friends that are still waiting. Oldest paper I have right now is at a year. GL

Bear in mind I also waited 5.5 months for a eForm 1 SBR that I submitted in November 2020 and didn't see approval till April 2021, yet others were being approved in 30 days or less.

I'm really tired of the games that NFA Branch is playing.

 

[RRomig]

Yeah your luck has not been good. I’ve never heard of a form one taking that long or even close. My first purchase over ten years ago was over a year wait so that set the standard for me. Hopefully sometime in early 23 they’ll be done with paper and by mid to late 23 every submittal will be below the much anticipated 90 days.

 

[AlBeight]

Somehow got lucky, just got 2 of my 3 back from the pipeline. The 2 were paper form 4’s, individual thru the SS kiosk. 1st one check cashed 10/21/21 (201 days), 2nd one check cashed 12/9/21 (only 132 days), both approved 4/20 (420 duuuude!). I wasn’t anticipating either of these before July. I still have an e-file form 1 from 1/21/22, right at 97 days on that one. I was expecting to get that one first. It’s not often you get pleasantly surprised by the ATF. Time to go buy more, I suppose. I know several of you have been waiting much longer than I was, hopefully you get your relief sooner than later.

 

[KH195]

Got a batch approval back today, three form 4 cans (all individual). Checks cashed 9/27/21 and two on 11/19/21.

 

[RRomig]

You would think batch will be even better when it’s 100% efile.
But if in fact it’s 90 or less then it isn’t as big a deal.

 

[camo556]

Batch approval. Nov 2021.

Edit: based on this I am sticking to my forecast that all 2021 paper form 4s will be done by end of q3 (likely earlier).