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Connecticut sends out the first gun confiscation letters
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kcbrown
Super Genius
- Jun 16, 2012
- 1,393
They already know these things. To presume otherwise is to presume idiocy on the part of the opposition, which is just another way of underestimating the opposition.
An economic war, huh? What, by people refusing to buy things? Not gonna happen in a way that it makes any real difference. By people refusing to pay taxes? Then they get rounded up and jailed. By people moving? That's about the only way any significant change is going to happen economically.
Otherwise, you're talking about property destruction and other such things. That's a possibility, to be sure, but I've no reason to believe that sufficient amounts to have an effect will result in anything other than something equivalent to martial law.
And it would be wise of us to not overestimate it.
Brooklyn
I stand with John Locke.
No. They do not. That's why they think guns are scary.
No one is going to jail, and no one is doing to destroy anything, and yet all hell will break lose--- the silence will be defining--
God help us all.
xdwaiter
Prodigy
And I will be there if he'll breaks loose
Here is my best guess after following this for awhile.
Connecticut's midget dictators will congratulate themselves endlessly about their little operation to ban scary rifles. They will have created great discomfort, insecurity and anger for hundreds of thousands of the people who likely have never voted for them and likely never will--however they will not send the Confiscation Troopers to their doorsteps.
I think they are thrilled just to cause so much discomfort with this action that they don't feel compelled to do more.
They will be content to have the CT State Police and local LEO "pick off" the occasional firearm owner found to be in possession of a banned rifle and/or magazine during a traffic stop or at the range.
These "felons" will have been cuffed, arrested, fingerprinted, jailed, bonded out, and given a court date before anyone in the 2A community can react. The banned rifle will be in the evidence vault, never to return. They will wag their fingers at the 2A community and say "See!….you're next!".
So, one by one, the "Will Not Comply Felons" will have the Connecticut net thrown over them and the dictator-self-congratulations will go on endlessly while the rest of the 2A community fumes.
The midgets will declare the system works and that actual door-to-door confiscations will begin when troopers and police officers have finished rounding up Hardened Street Criminals. The catch is that the Hardened Street Criminal Round-up never ends.
No door-to-door kick-downs, meaning no confrontations, which means the midgets can continue to tout their Machine Gun Ban while campaigning for re-election-- but a shooting war in Connecticut never starts.
The dictator midgets know that if they don't create SWAT confrontations then the 2A community will have to "start something". They are satisfied we won't. They will continue to high-five each other over their poke-in-the-eye to 2A folks and be happy with that.
Connecticut's midget dictators will congratulate themselves endlessly about their little operation to ban scary rifles. They will have created great discomfort, insecurity and anger for hundreds of thousands of the people who likely have never voted for them and likely never will--however they will not send the Confiscation Troopers to their doorsteps.
I think they are thrilled just to cause so much discomfort with this action that they don't feel compelled to do more.
They will be content to have the CT State Police and local LEO "pick off" the occasional firearm owner found to be in possession of a banned rifle and/or magazine during a traffic stop or at the range.
These "felons" will have been cuffed, arrested, fingerprinted, jailed, bonded out, and given a court date before anyone in the 2A community can react. The banned rifle will be in the evidence vault, never to return. They will wag their fingers at the 2A community and say "See!….you're next!".
So, one by one, the "Will Not Comply Felons" will have the Connecticut net thrown over them and the dictator-self-congratulations will go on endlessly while the rest of the 2A community fumes.
The midgets will declare the system works and that actual door-to-door confiscations will begin when troopers and police officers have finished rounding up Hardened Street Criminals. The catch is that the Hardened Street Criminal Round-up never ends.
No door-to-door kick-downs, meaning no confrontations, which means the midgets can continue to tout their Machine Gun Ban while campaigning for re-election-- but a shooting war in Connecticut never starts.
The dictator midgets know that if they don't create SWAT confrontations then the 2A community will have to "start something". They are satisfied we won't. They will continue to high-five each other over their poke-in-the-eye to 2A folks and be happy with that.
kcbrown
Super Genius
- Jun 16, 2012
- 1,393
The real opposition -- the group of people that is orchestrating the anti-rights efforts -- doesn't think guns are scary. They think guns in the hands of the general public are dangerous to their designs. That's a much different, and much more sinister, position.
Underestimate them at your peril.
- Dec 27, 2012
- 30,247
You forgot the part about 100,000s of Connecticut citizens defending themselves from a felony charge, going bankrupt, loosing their clearance and professional licenses, etc.
Actually, no I didn't. What I wrote is a prediction the Govt will use the same template they use for the "War on Marijuana". We know that there are hundreds of thousands of Connecticutans who do not "comply" with marijuana law.
There are the small time recreational users and then there are the "bigger fishes" who are user/dealers. I am watching for Connecticut to "enforce existing law" by jailing anyone who is unlucky enough to the be caught with the "contraband".
I also happen to agree with the earlier post that the Govt. will target some high profile 2A supporters/AR owners "not in compliance" and take them down in gas stations, in Wal-Mart parking lots, and other places in the open. They will start with the 1200 AR owners who gave CT all their info, but sent in their registration late--and are thus "out of compliance with the law". Those 1200 cases will keep the CT State Police occupied for years.
The CT authorities will claim victory for each takedown while reminding the public that the pursuit of violent criminals commands the most attention.
The object is to deprive the 2A community of rallying points and this one-by-one takedown strategy does that. The dictator midgets will grind out press releases, Facebook posts and campaign materials claiming victory in the War on Guns.
The strategy is like setting backfires to deprive the main fire of fuel.
jpk1md
Ultimate Member
- Jan 13, 2007
- 11,313
This is precious.
Home addresses of all the legislators that voted for the Ct Ban
Might be time for folks around the country to write a polite letter to them
Home addresses of all the legislators that voted for the Ct Ban
Might be time for folks around the country to write a polite letter to them
That may indeed be their strategic plan, but I see a big chance of it backfiring by causing voter revolt when people see their family, good neighbors and friends being rounded up for what they know is not just, reasonable or constitutional. Likely the longer it takes, the more backlash will develop.
The same strategy is not working for marijuana
This. I don't think these socialists understand that most real Americans still value freedom.
Yeah, but even freedom needs a rallying point. Where does that come from in a slow-motion War on Guns.
A generation ago Moms Demanding Action made DWI laws harsh and inflexible. No pushback from the occasional-drink-and-drive community and the public became normalized to the prosecutions.
oldman12
Ultimate Member
Who's to say what the rallying point is. If SHTF in Conn, it may, It actually should be ,but time will tell. Im hopeing and praying there is Oath Keepers in Conn that say F.U to the midget dictators. Midget Dictators, my new favorite word.
You cannot compare DWI to a Constitutional Right. I see your point to a degree. These people are criminalizing something that does no harm, and has been considered normal behavior by most of the Nation. Not to mention the Constitution thing.....
A slow-roll War On Guns in CT requires a Ukraine-style response to counter it. That means a protest/blockade at any courthouse where an AR owner is put on trial. The 2A rallies at Lawyers Mall are just too damn polite. For God's sake, we have to ask the Idiots for permission.
Major "un-permitted" protests interupting traffic into and around courthouses could provoke a harsh state response that could win wider support.
Remember, the Arab Spring started with ONE overturned vegatable cart.
Major "un-permitted" protests interupting traffic into and around courthouses could provoke a harsh state response that could win wider support.
Remember, the Arab Spring started with ONE overturned vegatable cart.
So a lawless rally with profanity slung indiscriminately will do more? When people say we are "too polite", I always wonder just what it is we should be doing. I have yet to get a good answer.
Major un-permitted protests will be a PR nightmare. Most people don't give a rat's ass about the gun issue. They will be annoyed that the "gun nuts" interrupted their morning commute. Those who had no opinion will lean toward believing the media perception of us. We will no longer be able to state the truth: we are law abiding citizens who want our Rights to be recognized. Instead, we will be called lawless, and people will wonder just how lawless we will become with our "arsenals". We will be painted as a threat to public safety and more and more people will believe it based on how our behavior has been portrayed in the media. Remember.....we will NEVER get an accurate portrayal in the main-stream media in this State. I don't like the fact that this needs to be a PR war, but it is.
Our side has a good record avoiding profanity at rallies. 1960's civil-rights-style protests at courthouses could be very effective, where the mere act of gathering is disruptive and embarrassing to the state.
Yes, motorists and pedestrians in the area might be pissed, but there is a much wider audience that could be energized if there was also a 1960's crackdown/mass arrest scenario. Yes, there are large groups of folks who don't give a damn about 2A, but they could be repulsed by the sight of "civil rights" protesters being slammed to the pavement.
It's how Lyndon Johnson lost control of the Vietnam War agenda.
Of course, our side could continue with polite rallies on the same day each year at the same "permit" location. That is a civil protest, not a civil rights protest. Which one worked the last time civil rights mattered?
Yes, motorists and pedestrians in the area might be pissed, but there is a much wider audience that could be energized if there was also a 1960's crackdown/mass arrest scenario. Yes, there are large groups of folks who don't give a damn about 2A, but they could be repulsed by the sight of "civil rights" protesters being slammed to the pavement.
It's how Lyndon Johnson lost control of the Vietnam War agenda.
Of course, our side could continue with polite rallies on the same day each year at the same "permit" location. That is a civil protest, not a civil rights protest. Which one worked the last time civil rights mattered?
- Dec 27, 2012
- 30,247
This is how unruly peaceful folks are dealt with in New Jersey.
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/outspoken-nj-gun-law-critic-targeted-by-state-police-72-hours-prior-to-hearing/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#
Watch the video. It's frightening.
http://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/outspoken-nj-gun-law-critic-targeted-by-state-police-72-hours-prior-to-hearing/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#
Watch the video. It's frightening.
oldman12
Ultimate Member
Seemed a little dictatorish there.
mike_in_md
Ultimate Member
If these people are already considered felons and refuse to turn in their guns, I wouldn't be surprised if they just convert their rifles to full auto. After all, a felony is a felony.
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