Thanks again everyone
Yeah, but the 2011 has a flush fit mag, it doesn’t have it’s shirt hanging out it’s fly....My Glock holds 33.
https://store.kiss-usa.com/kriss-mag-ex2-extended-magazine/
Maybe a 1911?
I need to look at the 2011 approach.
Who makes a good 80% 10mm kit?
Yeah, but the 2011 has a flush fit mag, it doesn’t have it’s shirt hanging out it’s fly....
I’m going to build one of those. Not kidding.
If you decide to build one let me know, maybe I’ll join you.
As others have said, if I were looking at .454, I would just get a Smith .460 which can shoot .460, .454 and .45LC. Shoot the fast stuff when your wrists are feeling strong and shoot .45lc when they aren't.
As far as 10mm, sadly MOST comercially available 10mm is downloaded to 40s&w velocities. Federal and Winchester are two of the worst at this, with some of their 10mm offerings chronoing at the same or slower speeds than 40. Full power 10mm can be had, Remington green and white is okay, but to really get the most out of it you need buffalo bore or underwood. Loaded on the hotter side, 10mm can give you solid .357 performance, with the lighter bullets giving muzzle energies around the mid-700s.
If I were doing another 10mm, I would probably go with a double stack 1911 from DW, or convert a Para .40-16 to 10. Basically works out to a 16-20 rd .357 which isn't a slouch.
Basically, as others have said, the .454 is a dedicated woods and brush gun for hunting and big critter defense. The 10 would be better for home defense and carry. Either is fun at the range, depending on proclivities.
if you are looking for an 80% 2011 kit, here is an option:
https://www.rogue-tac.com/OUTLAW-Grip-Rogue-Tactical-Frame--80_p_111.html
You will see some 2011 type 80% frames for auction, too. Those 80% are going for about $200. JEM guns sells 100% hi-cap frame for $300. They are quickly becoming the standard in the industry. $300 is pricey but you’ll pay lots for jigs if you don’t already own or borrow (an ATF no-no) one.
I’ve known about the buy/sell transactions. The equipment and premises the receiver built with/on is supposed to be the makers. This is what squashed the AK and AR build parties. Unless rulings have changed, I err on the side of caution.
I do know if I owned a mill and let you use it...that constitutes manufacture. Legalities. The whole point was having vs purchasing the jigs.
Held, any person (including any corporation or other legal entity) engaged in the business of performing machining, molding, casting, forging, printing (additive manufacturing) or other manufacturing process to create a firearm frame or receiver, or to make a frame or receiver suitable for use as part of a “weapon … which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive,” i.e., a “firearm,” must be licensed as a manufacturer under the GCA; identify (mark) any such firearm; and maintain required manufacturer’s records.
Held further, a business (including an association or society) may not avoid the manufacturing license, marking, and recordkeeping requirements of the GCA by allowing persons to perform manufacturing processes on blanks or incomplete firearms (including frames or receivers) using machinery, tools, or equipment under its dominion and control where that business controls access to, and use of, such machinery, tools, or equipment.
Held further, this ruling is limited to an interpretation of the requirements imposed on persons under the GCA, and does not interpret the requirements of the National Firearms Act, 26 U.S.C. 5801 et. seq.