Browning Hi Power clone sighting question

[Mark75H]

Here it is a Luger M-80 made by FEG

Nothing out of the ordinary, right?

My question is about different people sighting it differently. My cousin and I have to sight it with the tip of the front blade very slightly above the rear sight. We both see a little bit of the barrel in the bottom of the rear notch when the POI is going to be right at the tip of the front sight. If we sight the tip of the front even with the back, the POI will be lower and masked by the gun when we shoot. Leeann shoots it with the front and back dead even ... as we all do with 6 or 7 other handguns (mostly Sigs & 1911's) we shoot at my cousin's range.

I added a speck of goldleaf just below the front sight blade to help us see it a little better. Its not like we look at the whole speck, its just that its dead on when we first see the tiniest fleck of the gold.

I'm tempted to mill a little off the front blade, but don't want to if there is something I can change about the way I hold or look at the gun or the target ... esp since Leeann uses the top.

 

[python]

Where does it shoot at point of aim using the sights as they are set? Remember it is a service pistol, not a target piece.

 

[Mark75H]

It shoots low if I put the top of the front blade even with the top of the
notch. If Leeann sights it the same way she hits exactly where she is aiming.

What do you think is going on?

 

[BradMacc82]

It shoots low if I put the top of the front blade even with the top of the
notch. If Leeann sights it the same way she hits exactly where she is aiming.

What do you think is going on?

Difference in shooting position??

 

[Mark75H]

I shoot offhand, but my cousin and Leeann both shoot 2 handed, so that's not it.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Chant to yourself *YMMV* . In theory it could be any one of subtle differences in grasp , stance , geometry of the bones and tendons in your shooting hand , or your build and muscluture in entire upper body, and how in toto it effects the cycling and recoil dynamics of the pistol.
Your exact symptoms are different from the usual, so theoretically you could be *right* , and LeAnn and cousin could be limpwristing , and having everything cancel out.

Having said all that , ignore it all , and figure the best way to deal with it.

It is a lot easier to deal with a POI slightly above the front sight than below it. Some people prefer a 6 o'clock alignment on purpose. Accept as a given that you and LeAnn will umpact at different verticle points.

Change the POI so that it will hit reasonably close to dead on for you , while being acceptably 6 o'clock for LeAnn. You could file down on the front sight. OR experement with the next heavier bullet wt. Ie , if now using 115s , try 124s , if using 124s, try (shudder) 147s .

 

[Mark75H]

My cousin and I see it the same way regardless of our different hold/stance.

This oddity is particular to this gun's sights, not the shooters. For example, all 3 of us see and shoot my cousin's P226 .40 and Leeann's 1911 with identical sight picture, top of front blade even in the rear blocks. (The .40 is the sweetest pistol I've ever shot ... I think the others agree, too.)

I think we can discount any limp wristing.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Hypothetical Limp Wristing would have made hits go high and left.

 

[Mark75H]

Hypothetical Limp Wristing would have made hits go high and left.

That puts it way way out ... no one shoots this high or to either side

 

[Mark75H]

I have solved this mystery.

Its a vision thing. In the pictures the front sight appears the way Leeann sees it. My cousin and I agree that in person the front blade appears much taller than it does in pictures. Leeann and the camera see it one way and we see it another