Bribes for handgun permits, NYPD

[Brooklyn]

I love NY.

Very business like .

 

[Brooklyn]

Good luck. With few exceptions I find it perplexing and disturbing that a people who little more than a generation ago faced one of the most horrific atrocities known to man and still vote as a bloc for those that would disarm them.

I promise cash and carry is alive and well in pdrm.

Most likely not paper trail...but it's alive and well.

 

[fidelity]

I promise cash and carry is alive and well in pdrm.

Most likely not paper trail...but it's alive and well.

How big is the MD LD and how many people are in a position to put their thumb on the scale to determine the outcome? If what you're saying is correct, wondering how large the potential group of suspects is.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

 

[highli99]

I promise cash and carry is alive and well in pdrm.

Most likely not paper trail...but it's alive and well.

I see no evidence of this and no $$ was ever solicited from me in the course of my own permit application process. I'm not saying the MSP is immune to being corrupted but I have talked to MANY permit applicants and no one has complained of this sort of system at any point.

I do believe the MSP are organizationally against issuing permits but that is wholly different from what apparently has gone on in NYC.

 

[eruby]

I see no evidence of this and no $$ was ever solicited from me in the course of my own permit application process. I'm not saying the MSP is immune to being corrupted but I have talked to MANY permit applicants and no one has complained of this sort of system at any point.

I do believe the MSP are organizationally against issuing permits but that is wholly different from what apparently has gone on in NYC.

Maybe if you were a private detective hired to protect Vito Corleone Martin OweMalley.......

 

[nedsurf]

I can't see the MSP being part of it like the NYPD was. I would not be surprised if they were taking "strong suggestions" from elected officials to make sure they see the good and substantial of their friends applying for permits. I would be giddy with glee if the FBI turned up this type of dirt on people like of Sen. McFadden helping people like Frank Conaway Sr. get their permit. We only need a whistleblower or state's witness.

 

[highli99]

Maybe if you were a private detective hired to protect Vito Corleone Martin OweMalley Carcetti.......

I prefer to use the name Carcetti when referring to he who shall not be named. It's like referring to ISIS as Daish.

 

[BeoBill]

I can't see the MSP being part of it like the NYPD was. I would not be surprised if they were taking "strong suggestions" from elected officials to make sure they see the good and substantial of their friends applying for permits. I would be giddy with glee if the FBI turned up this type of dirt on people like of Sen. McFadden helping people like Frank Conaway Sr. get their permit. We only need a whistleblower or state's witness.

I concur. The MSP LD is a rogue organization, politically opposed to issuing permits to ordinary citizens. But Legislators, the rich and politically connected... Instant permit, sometimes even without asking.

And the law? That's for the commoners.

 

[Brooklyn]

How big is the MD LD and how many people are in a position to put their thumb on the scale to determine the outcome? If what you're saying is correct, wondering how large the potential group of suspects is.

Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

It's not like NY.

No permits no paper trail just no chance of prosecution and it's far beyond the police....

Black codes...Jim Crowe all the same..

It's just my gut... nothing else.

 

[W2D]

It's not like NY.

No permits no paper trail just no chance of prosecution and it's far beyond the police....

Black codes...Jim Crowe all the same..

It's just my gut... nothing else.

+1. It doesn't have to be for personal gain, just a bias against anyone who isn't part of the elite. It's corruption all the same.

 

[Brooklyn]

I see no evidence of this and no $$ was ever solicited from me in the course of my own permit application process. I'm not saying the MSP is immune to being corrupted but I have talked to MANY permit applicants and no one has complained of this sort of system at any point.

I do believe the MSP are organizationally against issuing permits but that is wholly different from what apparently has gone on in NYC.

It's not done at that level in MD.


The key is the business owner exeception....

Its a way to get permits to the connected without raising a red flag... like say donors and other sorts of ' the right kind of people'..

No low level corruption required..

Just the right references..

But mostly it's done by looking the other way ...

Esp in outlining counties....

No paper trail..required.

 

[ras_oscar]

I concur. The MSP LD is a rogue organization, politically opposed to issuing permits to ordinary citizens. But Legislators, the rich and politically connected... Instant permit, sometimes even without asking.

And the law? That's for the commoners.

So, where does that institutional bias against private licenses come from? Is it installed in the SOPs that new employees get upon entering service in that division? Self preservation/we've always done it that way? Aversion to perceived liability should a permit holder do something foolish? I had always speculated pressure from the Governor's office during O'Malley's administration, but I see no evidence of change since Hogan took the statehouse.

 

[BeoBill]

From Legislators, the rich and politically connected is my opinion. And an entitlement/arrogant attitude on the part of the LD Management. And don't forget the FROSH EFFECT.