Bolt action 5.56/.223 plinker

[Pinecone]

Mossberg MVP series. They take AR mags as well. Or, a Ruger Gunsite Scout.

Not wood.

But I like the Scout Rifle concept. But I would get the real thing:

https://www.steyr-arms.com/us/steyr-scout.html

The Steyr is the only one that meets all the criteria set down by Jeff Cooper about the Scout rifle.

 

[Pinecone]

Don't shoot 5.56 out of a .223. Aside from the pressure differences, most .223 rifles have too slow twist rate.

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/5-56-vs-223/

 

[Pinecone]

I researched this same question and found that the Savage rifles in .223 are Not Recommended for use in 5.56.

Ruger and Mossberg are GTG but I did not research the CZ, so that's good info to have.

In addition to pressure considerations you may run into extraction problems as I believe the 5.56 brass is a little thicker and requires a slightly larger chamber.

The previous thought is based upon my experience using 7.62x51 in .308 bolt rifles.

Except .308 vs. 7.62 is the other way around. Commericial .308 is hotter than military 7.62.

"Not recommended" is lawyer speak for, it is not our fault.

 

[dontpanic]

How about a Remington 600 or 600 Mohawk? I've always wanted a 600. They look great with the vent rib.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_600

 

[Racer Doug14]

Not wood.

But I like the Scout Rifle concept. But I would get the real thing:

https://www.steyr-arms.com/us/steyr-scout.html

The Steyr is the only one that meets all the criteria set down by Jeff Cooper about the Scout rifle.

Yeah, your right. The MVP does offer lam.wood, but not with irons. Irons on the Patrol. You could probably find a stock on Ebay. The .223/5.56 does not fit Coopers scout concept either.

 

[Jimbob2.0]

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/5-56-vs-223/

Good article.

As an FYI CZ claims there 527s are fine with 5.56

"Our .223s will happily eat 5.56, since CIP doesn’t differentiate between the two cartridges and just has the higher pressure as its standard. So our .223s will shoot everything from the cheapest Russian steel to match .223 brass ammo."

https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-carbine-223-rem/

So does Mossberg

https://www.mossberg.com/category/series/mvp-series/mvp-varmint-predator/

 

[Jimbob2.0]

How about a Remington 600 or 600 Mohawk? I've always wanted a 600. They look great with the vent rib.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_600

They are a classic but good luck finding one in .223. Been scouting for a .308 for a while, the only ones I come across are .243. May go pursue York tomorrow.

 

[dontpanic]

They are a classic but good luck finding one in .223. Been scouting for a .308 for a while, the only ones I come across are .243. May go pursue York tomorrow.

I've been looking for one in .223 for years. They come up occassionally but usually go for twice what a .308 goes for.

Good luck finding your .308. It's a great little rifle.

 

[Racer Doug14]

A Remington Model Seven is an option. Is available in .223. My brother has a first year in .243. Great little rifle a lot of people forget.

 

[dreadpirate]

CZ’s Model 527 Carbine and Lux are current models that meet your specs.

Savage Hog Hunter will give you the irons, but not the wood. Same with the Scout.

CZ - YES!

Now that being said; to be brutally honest, well done synthetic stocks (not the cheap ass ones) are more practical and better than wood. I would not discount something like the Savage (not the Axis model).

Now here's another idea; get the cheap ass Savage Axis model (if they have one with irons) but put a Boyd's stock on it, and throw the original in the trash. Then you will really have something.

 

[dreadpirate]

A Remington Model Seven is an option. Is available in .223. My brother has a first year in .243. Great little rifle a lot of people forget.

Oh hell - there you go! Good one!

[EDIT] Don't those have a short LOP? You might have to add a spacer - but so what?

 

[Racer Doug14]

Oh hell - there you go! Good one!

[EDIT] Don't those have a short LOP? You might have to add a spacer - but so what?

Agree with the synthetic stock opinion. Some are nice(like the one on my Savage Scout)and some are trash. The Model Seven is a tiny bit shorter. And, they make a compact one too. But, that is a plastic stock. My brothers fits my average build perfectly.

 

[Jimbob2.0]

A Remington Model Seven is an option. Is available in .223. My brother has a first year in .243. Great little rifle a lot of people forget.

Never been a big Remington fan but that's a nice little rifle. Laminate is a good compromise between wood and synthetic for field work.

 

[dreadpirate]

So this would be my short list if I had to have iron sights: [UPDATED]

http://store.jlowesguns.com/rifles/bolt-action-rifles/cz-so-527-carb-223-rem-5rd
http://store.jlowesguns.com/rifles/...e-bolt-223-rem-185-51-laminate-wood-stk-blued

 

[Straightbolt]

My CZ 527 Royal .223

 

[dreadpirate]

What scope is that on the CZ 527 Royal?

 

[Straightbolt]

What scope is that on the CZ 527 Royal?

Nitrex 6x20x50mm ( Made By Weaver) Think they are out of production now but it's been a great scope for me.
https://www.chuckhawks.com/nitrex6-20x50_riflescope.htm

 

[Racer Doug14]

Grabagun has the fde MVP Patrol for $463! Great deal. IMO

 

[Racer Doug14]

Here
https://grabagun.com/mossberg-mvp-patrol-5-56-tan-stock.html

 

[Pinecone]

Yeah, your right. The MVP does offer lam.wood, but not with irons. Irons on the Patrol. You could probably find a stock on Ebay. The .223/5.56 does not fit Coopers scout concept either.

No, but Steyr does make their Scout in that caliber. Cooper is probably spinning in his grave.

But for the right needs, a Scout in 5.56 is not that bad of an idea.