ATF preparing to collect data ?

[EL1227]

ATF Seeks 'Massive' Database of Personal Info: 'Assets, Relatives, Associates and More'

On March 28, ATF posted the notice on FedBizOpps.gov, entitled "Investigative System." The solicitation was updated on April 5 with a few minor changes.

The system "provides a means to rapidly check records across the country" and is "necessary in assisting investigators, agents and analyst to find people, their assets, relatives, associates and more."

So long MDS ... It's been great knowing ya'll.

 

[Echo]

I't seems more like its hardware and software for processing data over large networks. "Harvesting" information and "correlating" it seem to be the main purpose.

 

[dist1646]

Geheime Stadt Polizei

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

ATF Seeks 'Massive' Database of Personal Info: 'Assets, Relatives, Associates and More'





So long MDS ... It's been great knowing ya'll.

Do not fool yourself if you don't think "other FEDS" don't already have and use databases with much "private" information. What they know about us is appalling...and may or may not be legal. Makes McCarthy era pale in comparison. Less is more when it comes to on line ANYTHING.

 

[Half-cocked]

We're turning into the Soviet Union.

And nobody seems to give a flying f**k.

This is sickening.

 

[woodstock]

i recall the book/ movie "1984."

 

[EL1227]

Do not fool yourself if you don't think "other FEDS" don't already have and use databases with much "private" information. What they know about us is appalling...and may or may not be legal. Makes McCarthy era pale in comparison. Less is more when it comes to on line ANYTHING.

Except in the 'McCarthy era' it was 'us' watching 'them' and not the other way around. Once the progressives wrested control of the gov'mnt, they have turned the tables and are acquiring newer technology toys to do so.

 

[pbharvey]

Google does it.
Of course the gov does.
It's the department of future crime prevention.

 

[EL1227]

I't seems more like its hardware and software for processing data over large networks. "Harvesting" information and "correlating" it seem to be the main purpose.

And what is really curious about all of this is that almost EVERY information technology position posted on USAjobs requires an active TS/SCI clearance or above, regardless of the agency posting it.

But I'm prepared ...

 

[DrunkUncles]

Great... Now there's gonna be a run on foil!

 

[Markp]

Simply put, I know that they must have quite a collection on me. I have been through so many investigations just for clearances, not to mention my belief in individual liberty. F'em. They can go read my file again.

 

[swinokur]

Papiere bitte

 

[rseymorejr]

,

 

[Infantry23]

This is crazy stuff!

 

[Justin B.C.]

And what is really curious about all of this is that almost EVERY information technology position posted on USAjobs requires an active TS/SCI clearance or above, regardless of the agency posting it.

But I'm prepared ...

That is because most of those jobs involve working on the system(s) for an agency in some capacity that involve sensitive information of some type (like even a new IT tech for networks having access to Active Directory, or a sys admin assigning role-based access to employees). Higher-level techs/personnel work on everything from policy (day-to-day ops, threat prevention/reaction/reduction, etc) to designing new systems or integrating old systems with new technologies (just to show the tip of the iceberg). All this is info that adversaries of various stripes could use to breach a system. Put the tinfoil away on that one, my friend.

 

[EL1227]

Yeppers ...

That is because most of those jobs involve working on the system(s) for an agency in some capacity that involve sensitive information of some type (like even a new IT tech for networks having access to Active Directory, or a sys admin assigning role-based access to employees). Higher-level techs/personnel work on everything from policy (day-to-day ops, threat prevention/reaction/reduction, etc) to designing new systems or integrating old systems with new technologies (just to show the tip of the iceberg). All this is info that adversaries of various stripes could use to breach a system. Put the tinfoil away on that one, my friend.

All that and a bag of chips ...

Agreed, but it cuts both ways. One is 'need to know', the other 'privacy'.

Just taking the 'no fly list' debacles of TSA for example, you never know what data is being correlated, or how, or what will be done with it after a 'hit' is made. Having 35+ years in IT, I have a pretty good understanding of what used to be called AI (now splintered into multiple disciplines, mostly web-based). It will never be perfect.

Given that 4A has been all but rendered moot by NDAA, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that innocent persons will get caught in the same web as the 'bad guys'. In one of my more skeptical moods, I would almost think that it's by design by a gov'mnt who tells it's sheeple, "If you don't have anything to hide, you shouldn't have anything to worry about." Just being on MDS might someday mean that you have something to hide.

But, me and Puss-Puss will survive ...

 

[Vile Shadow]

"If you don't have anything to hide, you don't have anything to worry about".

And that there is the ultimate slippery slope. Once we start down that road, which as far as I'm concerned we already have, then any agency or legislature can pass any new regulation or law no matter how intrusive, on that basis alone.

 

[Threeband]

Geheime Stadt Polizei

Geheime Staatspolizei.

FIFY

 

[Justin B.C.]

Puss-puss has a "Why me?" look on his face... lol

 

[A1Uni]

Those types of systems have existed and have been used at all levels of lawenforcement/ government for years. I have used them myself, and they provide an obscene amount of private info at the click of a mouse.

See Accurint, or Auto Track for examples.

Whith these utilities, LE and even private companies can get your name, SSN, DOB, address, cars and property owned, cars owned, relatives out to 5 degrees, associates, neighbors, and the same aforementioned info on them, corporate affiliations, judgements, professional licenses and lots lots more.

Such a search takes about 30 seconds......

The Fed is just tired of paying search fees to third party vendors and wants their own in-house system.