ATF Coming After Firearms with Stabilizing Braces

[0621]

I haven’t read the 200+ pages, just a quick glance. Can’t see why you would have to destroy the brace as it itself is not illegal.

I agree, but the wording said to dispose of or alter.

3. Permanently remove and dispose of, or alter, the “stabilizing brace” such that it cannot be reattached, thereby removingthe weapon from regulation as a “firearm” under the NFA. The Department recognizes that the removal of a “stabilizing brace” from a firearm that was originally received as a “short-barreled rifle” results in the production of a “weapon made from a rifle,” as defined by the NFA. However,theDepartmentin its enforcement discretion will allow persons to reconfigure the firearm to a pistol by [INSERT DATE 120 DAYS AFTER DATE OF PUBLICATION IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER] and will not require the registration of these firearms as a “weapon made from a rifle.”

I would also think modifying the buffer tube would be like modifying a lower to not accept a short barrel upper.

 

[0621]

I agree, but the wording said to dispose of or alter.

3. Permanently remove and dispose of, or alter, the “stabilizing brace” such that it cannot be reattached, thereby removingthe weapon from regulation as a “firearm” under the NFA. The Department recognizes that the removal of a “stabilizing brace” from a firearm that was originally received as a “short-barreled rifle” results in the production of a “weapon made from a rifle,” as defined by the NFA. However,theDepartmentin its enforcement discretion will allow persons to reconfigure the firearm to a pistol by [INSERT DATE 120 DAYS AFTER DATE OF PUBLICATION IN THE FEDERAL REGISTER] and will not require the registration of these firearms as a “weapon made from a rifle.”

I would also think modifying the buffer tube would be like modifying a lower to not accept a short barrel upper.

Actually, after reading the rest of that paragraph, why in the world would you need to remove a brace from a currently stamped SBR?

 

[MD Shooter Envy]

Actually, after reading the rest of that paragraph, why in the world would you need to remove a brace from a currently stamped SBR?

IANAL but I would agree. They seem to now be classifying the brace (when installed) as a stock, and since a stamped SBR can have a stock, it's ok I guess. But why have a brace on a SBR when you can have a stock?

 

[whistlersmother]

The MGA is currently in session. In theory, it should be an easy bill to draft to clarify that the 29" rule doesn't apply to firearms registered as SBRs.

But then again...we live in Maryland...

The distinction and reason for the change would be completely lost on the average MGA tyrant.

 

[dontpanic]

Yes

So are these...

Buffer Tube Cover Kits - AR Pistol | Thordsen Customs

www.thordsencustoms.com

MD General Assembly already thought about this one. No handguns with buffer tubes. It's part of SB-1.

 

[0621]

MD General Assembly already thought about this one. No handguns with buffer tubes. It's part of SB-1.

Wonder if they have seen the CMMG and SIG offerings...

 

[outrider58]

MD General Assembly already thought about this one. No handguns with buffer tubes. It's part of SB-1.

So they are saying no AR pistols?

IDGAF

 

[dontpanic]

So they are saying no AR pistols?

IDGAF

It would appear that this is their intention. In a lot of ways we were lucky that they were so stupid when FSA 2013 was passed. SB-1 is much more calculated.

 

[Bertfish]

MD General Assembly already thought about this one. No handguns with buffer tubes. It's part of SB-1.

I read nothing in SB1 about this. Only the carry ban. Please advise

 

[inkd]

So, if a braced pistol was bought as a pistol can you swap out barrels and make it a rifle now?

 

[dontpanic]

I read nothing in SB1 about this. Only the carry ban. Please advise

Sorry, not SB-1. I just reread it. My brain is filled by reading all these new proposed infringements. I'll find the right one

 

[outrider58]

Can we get a direct link please, so we know we are all talking about the same thing?

 

[Sticky]

I give up.... :rollingmyeyes:

 

[FrankAR15]

So, if a braced pistol was bought as a pistol can you swap out barrels and make it a rifle now?

If you register it, You probably can for longer pistols. Some were designed for shorter barrels (5.5”) and have specially designed buffer springs and bolt carriers and I don’t think replacing the barrel would work with those.

 

[TinCuda]

Excellent video with great perspective.

 

[outrider58]

Excellent video with great perspective.

We need the House, the Senate, and the Whitehouse. Very good video. Thanks TC, for posting it.

(love his smoking jacket)

ETA: I'm reposting this in another thread.

 

[Waingro]

I'm sure it's been brought up but I'm lazy. What about pistols that can't meet 29" in maryland?

 

[dontpanic]

I'm sure it's been brought up but I'm lazy. What about pistols that can't meet 29" in maryland?

ATF pistol brace amnesty vs. MD law

ATF has formally reclassified braces as stocks. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-new-rule-address-stabilizing-braces-accessories-used-convert Owners have 120 days to file for a tax stamp as part of an amnesty period. Those of us in MD with braced pistols under 29"...

www.mdshooters.com

There's a thread for that

 

[Trumpet]

I'm sure it's been brought up but I'm lazy. What about pistols that can't meet 29" in maryland?

I would imagine much like states with no, SBRs...figure out a way to make it comply or you're SOL

 

[FrankAR15]

I'm sure it's been brought up but I'm lazy. What about pistols that can't meet 29" in maryland?

I was thinking about this too. I’m thinking if you form 1 it with federal it would still be considered a pistol in MD because that is how it is registered on the 77R……