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  • Racinready300ex-2

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    Apr 10, 2020
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    A friend of mine and I are debating if a AR-9 lower needs to have a 7 day wait in MD. This is a dedicated glock mag lower, it can not be anything but a caliber that will feed from a glock mag. So it's not under the assault weapon ban best I can tell. My reading is that AR-15 lowers this is true but I can't find where it's the case for non assault weapon lowers.

    I can see because it's not a pistol or a rifle so it must go through a FFL and the purchaser must be 21. Per the ATF.

    Can you anyone point me to what I'm missing? Trying to learn.
     

    RRomig

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    There’s only a wait on 223/556 lowers
    And Any lower can be built to a pistol regardless of whether it goes through the 77r process
     

    Sirex

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    There’s only a wait on 223/556 lowers
    And Any lower can be built to a pistol regardless of whether it goes through the 77r process
    Someone told me if you bought a COMPLETE LOWER, with a rifle stock on it, it could be transferred as a rifle, with the cash and carry background check. Is this true? I doubted it.
     

    RRomig

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    Someone told me if you bought a COMPLETE LOWER, with a rifle stock on it, it could be transferred as a rifle, with the cash and carry background check. Is this true? I doubted it.

    I have heard of people doing that but it is not a rifle.
     

    Sirex

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    I have heard of people doing that but it is not a rifle.
    What I was told, is since the lower receiver, is the serialized "firearm", once it has a RIFLE stock attached to it, it cannot be built as a pistol, and since MD only allows Hbars now, it can only be built with a Hbar barrel in 5.56/223 or another caliber. I don't mind going thru a background check, just the hassle of going thru the extended nonsense and being registered, for a Hbar rifle I want to build is absurd.
     

    RRomig

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    Depends on how the transfer was completed. As I said it’s not a rifle so on the 77r it’d be a lower and on the 4473 it’d be other /receiver.
    But if it was transferred to you from an ffl as a rifle then yeah your stuck.
     

    Mark75H

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    What I was told, is since the lower receiver, is the serialized "firearm", once it has a RIFLE stock attached to it, it cannot be built as a pistol, and since MD only allows Hbars now, it can only be built with a Hbar barrel in 5.56/223 or another caliber. I don't mind going thru a background check, just the hassle of going thru the extended nonsense and being registered, for a Hbar rifle I want to build is absurd.
    AR9, not 15.
     

    1841DNG

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    I have had some dealers tell me they required a 77R so that is floating around out there. I had even been told by one dealer that a glock mag lower is a 4473 only but if I were to then make it into a pistol it required voluntary registration. But there should not be a wait on those.
     

    outrider58

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    I have had some dealers tell me they required a 77R so that is floating around out there. I had even been told by one dealer that a glock mag lower is a 4473 only but if I were to then make it into a pistol it required voluntary registration. But there should not be a wait on those.
    Manure.
     

    outrider58

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    What I was told, is since the lower receiver, is the serialized "firearm", once it has a RIFLE stock attached to it, it cannot be built as a pistol, and since MD only allows Hbars now, it can only be built with a Hbar barrel in 5.56/223 or another caliber. I don't mind going thru a background check, just the hassle of going thru the extended nonsense and being registered, for a Hbar rifle I want to build is absurd.
    If it, in theory, started out as a pistol, it can be converted into a rifle, then back to a pistol. RR said, if it was tranfered to you as a rifle(which would be incorrect), you are stuck. I have also heard from 2A lawyers that an improper designation on a transfer isn't binding, but who wants to go to court and find out?

    Dedicated PC lowers do not require a 77r. 4473, yes. NICS, yes. Seven day waiting period, NO.
     

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