Any one CC with empty chamber?

[Voodoo03]

Every refence I see aboutthe "Israeli method" begins with racking a round at presentation. Seems to add about a second to battery.
They know a little about guns.
What are the pros and cons?
Your practice?

Kind of feels like trying to buckle your seat belt while the car accident is happening.

 

[DFresh64]

Always one chambered!!! Get comfortable with your EDC if you aren't comfortable having one chambered
Just my 2 cents

 

[Bob A]

Gotta admit, that would never have occurred to me. Then again I think I've carried IWB maybe six times in my life. Everything else is on my belt.

Yeah pancake is much more comfy.

 

[BurkeM]

Because you don't understand how they function.

 

[BurkeM]

I was replying to BurkeM, he took your post seriously. Some people just don’t get sarcasm without you telling them it’s sarcasm, so I told him.

There are too many people who actually believe that 11 rounds in a pistol is illegal.

Bad instructors put out bad information.

(The sarc font seems to be busted again.)

 

[INMY01TA]

I always carry chamber loaded and none of my handguns have an external safety.

 

[swinokur]

I was extremely nervous about carrying with one in the pipe at first but now I carry with one in the pipe and safety on. My CCW is striker fired and I cannot understand how people carry one without a safety.

The hospitals are full of people carrying pistols with no safety.

 

[joppaj]

My CCW is striker fired and I cannot understand how people carry one without a safety.

I don't own a semi-automatic that isn't a Glock. I don't really understand the desire for external safeties.

 

[swinokur]

The question is who is in charge of you?

Your brain or your hand?

 

[INMY01TA]

The hospitals are full of people carrying pistols with no safety.

The morgues are full of people carrying pistols with them.

 

[308Scout]

I don't own a semi-automatic that isn't a Glock. I don't really understand the desire for external safeties.

I understand the desire for them on 1911s, but not beyond guns that are meant to be carried "cocked and locked".

 

[teratos]

I don't own a semi-automatic that isn't a Glock. I don't really understand the desire for external safeties.

I think a lot of folks don’t understand that not all safeties need a thumb switch. Even a 1911 has a grip safety, so 2 safeties. Glock advertises 3 safeties: Trigger safety, firing pin safety, drop safety.

when I bought my P365, there isn’t a trigger safety, so I bought the model with the thumb safety. That is now in my parts bin.

As mentioned before, in a decent holster, nothing short of a freak accident is going to cause that firearm to discharge. There is no danger of discharge when drawing. The only other factor is your finger, and if you analyze your draw, it’s highly unlikely that you will get your finger on the trigger while the muzzle is pointed at you. You will be drawing with momentum toward your target.

The most dangerous action is reholstering. Since we are talking about a defensive shooting, when the smoke clears there is no need to reholster. Your gun will be on the ground when the police arrive, or if no shots fired, you can take the holster off your body, reholster, the. Put it back where it belongs.

 

[Huckleberry]

I carry with the hammer down on an empty chamber once in awhile when I OC

I can also honestly say that I've been faster than Bob Munden for that last 11 years

 

[Biggfoot44]

The hospitals are full of people carrying pistols with no safety.

Not sure where you're going with this ?

The morgues are full of people carrying pistols with them.

I do see where you're going with this , but I question it .

For decades now , Mas Ayoob has had a standing offer for anyone for a verified instance in the real world of anyone getting shot because of being on safe ( in addition to his own research ) .

Still haven't found one . The closest was a LEO attempting to impropperly trying to shoot a fleeing subject in the back , but luckily for him didn't get the shot off by fumbling with his safety .

( FWIW a couple dozen instances of GG being saved because of safety On , but that's a different discussion .)

 

[Biggfoot44]

I carry with the hammer down on an empty chamber once in awhile when I OC

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I can also honestly say that I've been faster than Bob Munden for that last 11 years

Zing !

Since I have SA Rev of various action types , I load 5 even with New Model Rugers , just for the consistency of manual of arms .

 

[joppaj]

I understand the desire for them on 1911s, but not beyond guns that are meant to be carried "cocked and locked".

Valid of course. I guess I should have said that I don't see the desire to carry a gun which has an external safety. As always though it comes down to comfort of the shooter and their familiarity with the platform. I think some of the CZ handguns are gorgeous, but I'd likely never carry one. Too many years of Glocks to want to overcome that muscle memory.

 

[wilcam47]

I think a lot of folks don’t understand that not all safeties need a thumb switch. Even a 1911 has a grip safety, so 2 safeties. Glock advertises 3 safeties: Trigger safety, firing pin safety, drop safety.

when I bought my P365, there isn’t a trigger safety, so I bought the model with the thumb safety. That is now in my parts bin.

As mentioned before, in a decent holster, nothing short of a freak accident is going to cause that firearm to discharge. There is no danger of discharge when drawing. The only other factor is your finger, and if you analyze your draw, it’s highly unlikely that you will get your finger on the trigger while the muzzle is pointed at you. You will be drawing with momentum toward your target.

The most dangerous action is reholstering. Since we are talking about a defensive shooting, when the smoke clears there is no need to reholster. Your gun will be on the ground when the police arrive, or if no shots fired, you can take the holster off your body, reholster, the. Put it back where it belongs.

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What holster is that? How do you like it?

 

[eruby]

I prefer Greek carry (gyro) over Israeli carry (felafel)

Either way, one in the chamber, and no external safety

 

[teratos]

What holster is that? How do you like it?

It’s a Versacarry. It’s very comfy and goes off and on quickly. I usually wear khakis with a tan belt to hit the clip with some spray paint.

Compound Custom (IWB) Holster

Versacarry® is one of the world's smallest concealed carry holsters. Our ZeroBulk Holster® design fits most guns and is ideal for deep concealment and comfort.

versacarry.com

 

[Bullfrog]

I prefer Greek carry (gyro) over Israeli carry (felafel)

I like both very much, but I confess I and some friends had one bad experience at a restaurant in Haifa many years ago.

For the rest the trip that dinner was known as the "Awful Falafel".

Either way, one in the chamber, and no external safety

... and a hammer.

das Beste.