And the new Gov of MD will be

[Dirichlet]

Not going to be a lot of love for Obama here on MDS. He is an Anti gun, wealth redistributor, racist shit stirrer, socialist, anti American, anti freedom, dictator with a phone and a pen, I could go on and on. Nothing to do with his race.

This

 

[j_h_smith]

What was Hogan's alternative to Trump?

Hogan can stand in his record. His political music sounds better to the fence riders, but to people like me, he is no different than a Democrat.

Ill leave the Governor blank when I vote next time. Governor Hogan hasn't earned my follow up vote in words or action.

I have him a shot with my vote once.

So, by not voting for a Republican (presumably Hogan) your non-vote is actually a vote for a Democrat.

If you really believe that Hogan is no better than a Democrat, I think you may be kidding yourself. Can you imagine what this state would look like if Brown had been elected? Stop, stand back and just remember what his platform was based on. Brown would bankrupted this state as well as TAKEN every gun you now own. Your assessment of Hogan may have some merit, in that he hasn't done anything to help the gun owners in the state. BUT, he hasn't hurt us either. That can't be said for any Democrat that would have won the election.

That's not what we want to hear, I know. But status quo isn't going backwards.

You are entitled to vote how you want, but I would want you to stop and think what will happen to this state with all of the anti-Trump rhetoric AND a Democrat governor.

 

[clandestine]

So, by not voting for a Republican (presumably Hogan) your non-vote is actually a vote for a Democrat.

If you really believe that Hogan is no better than a Democrat, I think you may be kidding yourself. Can you imagine what this state would look like if Brown had been elected? Stop, stand back and just remember what his platform was based on. Brown would bankrupted this state as well as TAKEN every gun you now own. Your assessment of Hogan may have some merit, in that he hasn't done anything to help the gun owners in the state. BUT, he hasn't hurt us either. That can't be said for any Democrat that would have won the election.

That's not what we want to hear, I know. But status quo isn't going backwards.

You are entitled to vote how you want, but I would want you to stop and think what will happen to this state with all of the anti-Trump rhetoric AND a Democrat governor.

I appreciate your thoughts, I sincerely do. Please understand the following is not an attack on you, it's how I feel about Hogan.

I honestly see no difference with Hogan compared to a Democrat. I watch what he does for the media, I see his social media posts. He really is a spineless turd. I would love to tell him this to his face.

I'll give Democrats their dues. They are wrong on every issue, but damn they don't deviate from the goals. They play hardball.

Hogan last straw with me was the Heroin "emergency". I could deal with him riding the 2a fence and possibly helping after re-election. Crime and criminals is a serious issue for me. The courts in MD don't keep anyone locked up, and his silly ass is worried about people with heroin "disease". F him.

 

[Stoveman]

Hogan has appointed a majority of pro 2A and citizen carry to the HPRB.

Senator Madaleno, a Dem who probably will run for Guv, wants to do away with the HPRB and introduced legislation last session to do so.

For that reason alone I would vote for Hogan against any D.

 

[j_h_smith]

I appreciate your thoughts, I sincerely do. Please understand the following is not an attack on you, it's how I feel about Hogan.

I honestly see no difference with Hogan compared to a Democrat. I watch what he does for the media, I see his social media posts. He really is a spineless turd. I would love to tell him this to his face.

I'll give Democrats their dues. They are wrong on every issue, but damn they don't deviate from the goals. They play hardball.

Hogan last straw with me was the Heroin "emergency". I could deal with him riding the 2a fence and possibly helping after re-election. Crime and criminals is a serious issue for me. The courts in MD don't keep anyone locked up, and his silly ass is worried about people with heroin "disease". F him.

Then you have forgotten what it's like to have a Democrat sitting in the governor's office.

I don't see where he has to be one or the other. His office isn't a binary operation. He's doing what he thinks he can. He can't turn water into wine.

There are many who share your attitude but I would ask you to remember the fear we all had for a Clinton presidency last year. Wouldn't you think that electing a Democrat into the office of the governor would reignite all of these worries, just on a state wide basis instead of for the nation?

I get very concerned when good people start talking about not voting for Hogan because he hasn't done anything to help them. It doesn't matter what the subject is, he's doing what he can.

Do I think he's a rabid supporter of the 2nd amendment? No. Do I think he would do anything to hurt out 2A rights, NO. So where do I go?

Do I keep supporting him, being happy that we aren't losing any gun rights? You betcha. Because I know that if a Democrat becomes governor of Maryland, you will find your 2A rights eroding much faster than the shoreline of the Chesapeake Bay.

 

[DC-W]

You KNOW with Hogan that you will not get more gun control; at least no pushes for it from his office. We've managed to spare him from using his veto pen so far on gun control measures, but we've seen how easily his vetoes are overturned...

Not voting for him is a vote for MORE gun control.

It's cutting off your nose to spite your face in a way. He's not the best, but face it -- this is MD. It's not close to being conservative or even mildly red. We're not going to get a Reaganesque or Trumpesque governor here, at least not in the near future. All or nothing doesn't help the situation that we find ourselves in today.

The general assembly needs 5 republicans in the senate to maintain Hogan's vetoes. Not electing Hogan again will ensure an unleashed anti-gun and anti-self-defense agenda.

We don't know what the President or the congress, or SCOTUS will do nationally, or that we can count on anything restoring or protecting our rights at that level. That's why it's imperative we keep a rabid anti-gunner out of our Governor seat and knock down as many anti-gun legislators as we can.

Also, remember who our wonderful AG is. He literally got more votes in 2014 for his race than Hogan for Governor. AG also has his thumb firmly pressed on all sorts of matters here and has enough power to stop Hogan from doing certain things. Get Hogan elected and then maybe, just maybe, he can do a little more to restore some sanity around here.

 

[Doco Overboard]

Hogan will, has lost a lot of support around my way.

 

[fred333]

Not going to be a lot of love for Obama here on MDS. He is an Anti gun, wealth redistributor, racist shit stirrer, socialist, anti American, anti freedom, dictator with a phone and a pen, I could go on and on. Nothing to do with his race.

...and that's putting it lightly.

 

[brownspotz]

I won't be the first to say that with a democrap at least you know what you are dealing with. the great white hype didn't do us any favors and I believe he wasn't planning to either. I'm still paying rain tax and oh boy! the bay bridge toll got reduced!

 

[redeemed.man]

I won't be the first to say that with a democrap at least you know what you are dealing with. the great white hype didn't do us any favors and I believe he wasn't planning to either. I'm still paying rain tax and oh boy! the bay bridge toll got reduced!

Meanwhile he preached looser regulations on businesses. My industry has suffered severely increased regulations for the past two years after having no changes during the O'Malley years. Go figure.

If I can convince my wife to move to free America it will be the Hogan straw that broke this camels back. Gun hate I was used to, hate for and increased expenses for my business not so much.

 

[DC-W]

Also keep in mind that the governor in 2018 will be in control of redistricting.

Who would you rather that be?

We don't have the benefit of an electoral college here. We need to popular vote to come thru for whomever is the least anti-gun and the most reasonable.

We had months of arguing over principles over the current President last year. Why relive that?

 

[redeemed.man]

Also keep in mind that the governor in 2018 will be in control of redistricting.

Who would you rather that be?

We don't have the benefit of an electoral college here. We need to popular vote to come thru for whomever is the least anti-gun and the most reasonable.

We had months of arguing over principles over the current President last year. Why relive that?

Not saying I won't vote for him if I am still here in 2018 but I will be holding my nose while doing so.

 

[DC-W]

We wouldn't have President Trump if people didn't.

 

[redeemed.man]

We wouldn't have President Trump if people didn't.

True

 

[brownspotz]

We wouldn't have President Trump if people didn't.

your vote for a president elect doesn't count. only electoral votes do. no one in the country could vote and we would still have a winner decided by the electoral college. now local matters....yes your vote does count.

 

[DC-W]

your vote for a president elect doesn't count. only electoral votes do. no one in the country could vote and we would still have a winner decided by the electoral college. now local matters....yes your vote does count.

That's my point. Total agreement. All about raw numbers here.

 

[Mr. Ed]

So sad that we're relegated to voting for the lesser of evils.

 

[Peacefuloutrage]

I truly loved and appreciated Obama as President, not because he is black, or because I agreed with him on most issues, but simply because I feel as though he truly cares about this country and he did a great job getting us out one of the greatest recessions of all time.

But guess what, I voted for Hogan. Hogan, also like Obama, strikes me as a man who truly cares for Maryland and Marylanders. When all the ridiculous and unnecessary unrest started in Baltimore -- Hogan was here, in Baltimore City! And do you wanna know what he was doing?? How about on the front f-ing line talking to the impoverished blacks of Baltimore City asking them how can we come together to provide opportunities to make things better here in Baltimore. By time our great (he's no lesser) governor was rapping up, the impoverished blacks of the city were calling him, "Gov."

I was freaking touched by this in a tremendous way. It bought tears to my eyes. Growing up in DC, all I know is diversity. Baltimore is a different world in that aspect. The race and socioeconomic divide here is #REAL. I have great respect for Governor Hogan and as long as I can vote for him -- I WILL. I don't care who decides to run against him. That man has Maryland's best interest at heart.

On another note, I believe Gov. Hogan will try to go up against Maryland's nonsense gun laws during his next term. Also, I am NOT a black lives matter supporter. It's a inconsistent notion and ridiculous sentiment that removes responsibility, consequences, and accountability from MOSTLY criminals. Sure there are some instances of racial profiling and policing of the innocent that perpetuates bigger problems, and this should never be tolerated. But I am an armed forces and Law enforcement supporter.


-----||A man who does not see color, only character. Green is the only color that matters!||-----

I am happy to say that Obama, a minority, became POTUS in that future generations can see that a minority person can be selected to that high office.

However, as a person, be did nothing for the poor or disenfranchised at all.

He made sure that after the wealthy banking and insurance cartels got him into office they were not held accountable for their criminal actions. Many people lost homes that the bankers couldn't even prove were "defaulted" even after receiving bailout funds.

He continued "Operation Gunrunner" into "Fast and Furious" and adopted many policies that continued to contribute to the poor and disenfranchised unable to defend themselves.

He pushed for mandatory insurance that forced people to pay for an inferior health product, instead of a free-market approach that would have forced insurance companies to compete for business instead of an expensive monopoly. It caused many people too lose full-time employment when companies who weren't exempted chose to cut hours or eliminate positions altogether

Instead of changing policies that would have encouraged policing efforts to treat all people with respect and concentrate on quality of life crimes we end up with a lot of the unnecessary race-baiting. I support law enforcement and everyone else. LEOs are the same as us, they just get paid to apprehend criminals. They put on a vest, gunbelt, and gear and step out into the same environments everyone else has to deal with witout back-up. I have family in law enforcement and know many officers. Baltimore City's department is a total mess. I have been told that with my ideals, I would be broken to accept the status quo, forced to quit, or killed. Many officers just give in and do as they're told. If they weren't trained with "us vs. them" and the pols and lawyers prosecuted violent offenders, it would go a long way for everyone.

But those policy changes that may not have cost the country a dime and would have benefited all people never happened.

After Ron Paul ran for president I realized I had libertarian values. I realized the machine twists the idea of our constitutional republic that says "all people have a say" into "democracy" which is essentially "majority rules". We aren't a democracy for a reason. If nine others told you they want your land and it would benefit the greater good you probably wouldn't agree with them.

<added>As far as seeming genuine, I have learned to trust people from their actions and not their words. Not only can he be an impeccable actor and only care about himself behind closed doors, he could be a sociopath. As the good book says you can judge a tree by its fruit.

/rant

 

[Anwil6]

And a nice rant it was . I totally agree, democrats are ignorant (blind to facts) and dependent on the system. I expected Obama to have democratic policy. In the end, I agree with a lot of what was said. There were a lot of things I didn't agree with during Obama's administration. And it's my belief that the support of the black lives matter movement perpetuates hate and distrust amongst all LE. When in all actuality most cops are good cops, just a few bad apples that spoil the bunch. Ultimately, I would like to move forward with a collective vision of for the future of our children and stand as one. No that does not mean I'm in anyway suggesting that I will consider giving up my right to bare arms which will not be infringed upon.


-----||A man who does not see color, only character. Green is the only color that matters!||-----

 

[GAL700]

Defeatism will not end well for us. If that is how anyone on here feels you might as well start packing your weapons and bring them to the MSP. While extreme how is that any different then sitting back and allowing a situation where the MD legislator has zero push back on 2A rights. I don't think as conservatives in MD we have a better opportunity before us to try and get Hogan re-elected. We WON didn't we? The Clinton machine got it's ass handed to it in spite of 1.2 billion. Lets try and keep the momentum. We have no other choice do we?