An ATF Approved 80% But With A Twist?

[SWO Daddy]

Well since the manufacturer sells it just as a "parts kit," one could complete the "kit" with whatever parts they choose, including a pistol brace in lieu of the wire stock. Basically, I'm not seeing how the configuration the seller is selling the "parts kit" n has any relevance, as the wire stock is just one of many parts contained within their "parts kit."

Just my $0.02

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Agree. IANAL, but putting a stock on a not-a-firearm shouldn't affect it as a firearm.

 

[Muleskinner]

My semi-educated guess is yes, possession of the finished product is still illegal b/c we didn't possess before 10/1/13 and its a 7.62x39 AK. Not legal advice, of course.

And how would the state know when you bought it or took possession of it? It's up to the state to find out....good luck with that..especially if you pay cash for it..

 

[Nay_sayer]

Look like the Galil trigger and Safety would work.

Then it would be a Galak! Not banned

 

[grimnar15]

Then it would be a Galak! Not banned

I like it!!!

 

[Brickman301]

It should be legal if you built it into a pistol. Replace the wire stock, with a tube and a pistol brace, and your good to go. A pistol can have as long a barrel as you want. You could easily shorten the barrel if you wanted as well.

 

[NateIU10]

I'd love to see the ATF letter on this. I could not find it on their site. That configuration is vastly past the "firearm" letters I have seen for AK receivers in the past.

 

[SWO Daddy]

I'd love to see the ATF letter on this. I could not find it on their site. That configuration is vastly past the "firearm" letters I have seen for AK receivers in the past.

I was pretty surprised at that myself.

 

[owgriffin]

Is this thread saying that 80% lowers are illegal in Maryland now? To possess?

 

[Allen65]

Is this thread saying that 80% lowers are illegal in Maryland now? To possess?

No. It's about parts kits for rifles banned in MD.

 

[lazarus]

What is very strange is that there are no traceable markings that could establish a build date.

It’s probably not going to be THAT difficult for a particularly knowledgeable ATF firearms branch technician to figure out it was an 80% and then figure out who’s and then figure out the 80% wasn’t made until well after 2013 and thus couldn’t be a legal pre- 10/2013 AK.

ATF has a sample of the the thing.

Remember the old phrase, play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I do like the idea of getting one for a form 1 SBR. Out of curiosity, anyone know how well an AK functions if the barrel is cut down slightly. Say cut back to 15.25” and threaded. I’d assume the slight loss in barrel length probably wouldn’t effect cycling. Make it easy if I ever moved out of this state to pin and weld on a muzzle device, send a note to the ATF and tear up my tax stamp.

 

[ken792]

I do like the idea of getting one for a form 1 SBR. Out of curiosity, anyone know how well an AK functions if the barrel is cut down slightly. Say cut back to 15.25” and threaded. I’d assume the slight loss in barrel length probably wouldn’t effect cycling. Make it easy if I ever moved out of this state to pin and weld on a muzzle device, send a note to the ATF and tear up my tax stamp.

AKs are pretty overgassed as they are, so you'll be fine. People cut barrels even lower without having to change the gas port with no issues.