Advise in optics/iron sight for Lonewolf 9mm carbine

[josh19]

Hi everyone,

A month ago, I posted for advice in getting a 9mm carbine. Well, I just got a lonewolf 9mm carbine. Pretty much what I expected - familiar AR15 platform (minus the bolt open last round feature), the bolt assembly is very simple. The glock 17/19/26 mag all fit snuggly well. The carbine comes with a quad-picatinny rail. I attached a bipod to it.

I appreciate for any advice for the type of optics and iron sight I should get. I wonder I should give a red dot sight a try (never have one before). I figure this is a 9mm, may be a closer range red dot is suffice. Instead of the more powerful 4-12/4-16 scope.

1. What do you think of my logic ? And any red dot sight you recommend ?
2. For iron sight I am thinking about the AR15 Magpul mbus front an rear sight. Will this be good.

Thanks again for all your help.

 

[awptickes]

My wife can hit anything she puts the red dot on (cheapo primary arms $50 unit) at about 50 yards with her 7.5" 9mm AR Pistol. We did have an issue where it would loosen up, but a couple taps with a punch on the securing nut to stake it fixed that.

I suspect the ballistics of the 9mm through a 7.5" barrel is pretty flat out to about 125 yards (max on my range at home) because I can consistently ring steel at that distance with little to no holdover. I don't really see a point in a magnified optic for a 9mm, unless you want to do something crazy with it. If I had one, I'd put a 3x magnifier behind the red dot just to play around when she'd let me.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Along the lines ofawptickles' observations, the trajector of 9mm carbine would be basically similar to 4in .357 revolver. ( Reasonably flat trajectory to aprox 100, not too bad to 125- ish.)

I would generally be pleased/ recomend iron sights on one, and can see where fans of non-magnifing red dots would like them


But never say never, and zi can think of two plausable scenarios for scoping one. :

Small game hunting for squirrel sized game. Probably accuraccy limited to +/- 50yds, 4X works for rimfires at those distances, should be just as suitable on 9mm carbine.

Deer sized game. Sometimes in the woods with shadows, overcast skys, sunrise/ sunset , in order to see the game , non-magnifing just isn't quite enough. Somthing like 2.5x helps just enough, yet still has generous field of view and depth of field. ( To allow of quick target aquisition when shouldering gun, and for maintaining view of moving targets.)

 

[traveller]

I have a red-dot on my 9mm carbine. Works great to practice off-hand shooting at 25 and 50yrds. You are not going to hunt anything with the thing, right ?

 

[davsco]

if you want to see some options, come to the peacemaker national (www.peacemakernational.com) supersteel match (falling steel, uspsa-style) on sat 30th (west of frederick, north of winchester, south of hagerstown). should be at least a few folks shooting PCC at the morning and afternoon matches. you're welcome to look thru mine (c-more tactical railway 6moa) and i'm sure my buddies will do the same for you. i'm doing the afternoon match.

 

[josh19]

My wife can hit anything she puts the red dot on (cheapo primary arms $50 unit) at about 50 yards with her 7.5" 9mm AR Pistol. We did have an issue where it would loosen up, but a couple taps with a punch on the securing nut to stake it fixed that.

Hi, the lonewolf is a 16" inch barrel. Look almost identical to a AR15 except the mag is the skinny glock. So I think it should improve the Trajectory and range (not sure by how much). One reason I like this is that I can shoot that at indoor range (25 yard).

After google for red dot review, I think I will get the
Vortex StrikeFire II Red Dot Scope ......price is decent and seems to have good review.
http://www.opticsplanet.com/vortex-vortex-strikefire-ii-red-dot-4-moa.html

It lists 3 model, I think red dot is fine, unless there is an advantage in multi color

Question: Cantilever Mount ? is this good to have vs. standard mount ? Google said it give more eye relief.

 

[traveller]

Hi, the lonewolf is a 16" inch barrel. Look almost identical to a AR15 except the mag is the skinny glock. So I think it should improve the Trajectory and range (not sure by how much).

9mm velocity increases until about 8in barrel length and doesn't do much after that.

 

[Biggfoot44]

9mm velocity in carbines varies a lot ( primarily depending on powder used). You can't really generalize w/o actually chrono'ing the particular load and lot thereof.