- Jul 29, 2014
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Word is NC is turning into east CA
Yeah. That was our first choice a couple years ago. It's down near the bottom of our list now and if we did go there, it would be the western side, the hell away from the I95 corridor.
Word is NC is turning into east CA
Good point, I stand corrected.
The real argument for SBRs right now is that the ATF is hot to ban braced pistols, and thus they may not be a great long-term investment. Of course, if you want to go < 29" OAL, there's no other game in town.
Their proposed criteria would be as rough on 9mm braced "pistols" as 5.56 braced "pistols". The only thing that would have made the pistol caliber guns score better would be not putting LPVOs and the like on them.So I thought they were most interested in going after braced pistols in rifle calibers and that pistol calibers would still be pistols; but who knows for sure.
So I thought they were most interested in going after braced pistols in rifle calibers and that pistol calibers would still be pistols; but who knows for sure.
So what would be a good pistol/brace set up. Prefer 9mm.
Agreed but the last I saw they were not taking new orders due to a backlog. They can be tough to find elsewhere.
Still taking orders. I received my last order fro them (RDB & Barrel) after about 7 months. It came two weeks ago.
https://cmmg.com/barrel-and-bcg-kit-5-4140cm-sbn-9mm
For an AR-9, best bang for the buck (no pun intended) is to build one of these CMMG rigs as a braced pistol (Outriders post above). The only thing is there are not many lower receivers that work with this barrel/bolt combo. The CMMG lowers are scarce. I have not done a 9mm CMMG RDB rig, but my understanding is that New Frontier Armory lowers work.
For non-AR, The Ruger PC Carbines are pretty good value. They will accept Glock mags:
https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/models.html
And then there are the CZ, Beretta, and HK offerings already mentioned.
For an AR-9, best bang for the buck (no pun intended) is to build one of these CMMG rigs as a braced pistol (Outriders post above). The only thing is there are not many lower receivers that work with this barrel/bolt combo. The CMMG lowers are scarce. I have not done a 9mm CMMG RDB rig, but my understanding is that New Frontier Armory lowers work.
For non-AR, The Ruger PC Carbines are pretty good value. They will accept Glock mags:
https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/models.html
And then there are the CZ, Beretta, and HK offerings already mentioned.
For an AR-9, best bang for the buck (no pun intended) is to build one of these CMMG rigs as a braced pistol (Outriders post above). The only thing is there are not many lower receivers that work with this barrel/bolt combo. The CMMG lowers are scarce. I have not done a 9mm CMMG RDB rig, but my understanding is that New Frontier Armory lowers work.
For non-AR, The Ruger PC Carbines are pretty good value. They will accept Glock mags:
https://ruger.com/products/pcCarbine/models.html
And then there are the CZ, Beretta, and HK offerings already mentioned.
Factory GLOCK mags sit a little higher than Magpul, so the Magpul tend to work better, factory mags usually catch the bolt lugs, and have to file down the mag catch so it sits lower. Problem is then it's kinda loose, and resting the mag on a table or so will jam or chew the mag.
Oh boy did I find that out the hard way! Everything you said in spades!! When I tried a NFA lower on my RDB for 45 ACP (as opposed to 9mm), it did not work even after filing the release down to a nub. 45 APC seems to be worse than 9mm.
OBTW - what is a short stroke kit?
Oh boy did I find that out the hard way! Everything you said in spades!! When I tried a NFA lower on my RDB for 45 ACP (as opposed to 9mm), it did not work even after filing the release down to a nub. 45 APC seems to be worse than 9mm.
OBTW - what is a short stroke kit?
OP is a lot better off doing RDB specific Endomags or waiting for a complete CMMG banshee to become available, otherwise he will likely end up making lots of ranty posts about parts compatibility. Specifically lack thereof.You can always use a standard lower with Endomags with a CMMG bolt and barrel
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OP is a lot better off doing RDB specific Endomags or waiting for a complete CMMG banshee to become available, otherwise he will likely end up making lots of ranty posts about parts compatibility. Specifically lack thereof.
Here’s a fun website from a guy who has gotten certain builds running really well, and has had issues with others:
https://c3junkie.com/?page_id=280
The 9mm version is often called the “amphibian” build. He does a lot of experimentation, but basically recommends:
CMMG BCG and barrel kit
VLTOR A5 length buffer tube extension
Kynshot RB5007 hydraulic buffer
Tubb 5.56 flatwire spring
RDB Endomags
He’s got .40 s&w and .45acp versions up on his website now.
OP is a lot better off doing RDB specific Endomags or waiting for a complete CMMG banshee to become available, otherwise he will likely end up making lots of ranty posts about parts compatibility. Specifically lack thereof.
Here’s a fun website from a guy who has gotten certain builds running really well, and has had issues with others:
https://c3junkie.com/?page_id=280
The 9mm version is often called the “amphibian” build. He does a lot of experimentation, but basically recommends:
CMMG BCG and barrel kit
VLTOR A5 length buffer tube extension
Kynshot RB5007 hydraulic buffer
Tubb 5.56 flatwire spring
RDB Endomags
He’s got .40 s&w and .45acp versions up on his website now.
That is what I took your post to mean. I was agreeing with you, but was being specific in my post. The non RDB mags don’t have nearly as good a reputation as the RDB ones, though some have used them heavily with no issue on direct blowback 9mms.Agreed on the mags. I guess I was referring to the RDB ones, I didn’t realize they made a different version for non RDB.
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This is interesting...and affordable.
https://mbxextreme.com/index.php?page=Firearm_Accessories_Buffer
That is what I took your post to mean. I was agreeing with you, but was being specific in my post. The non RDB mags don’t have nearly as good a reputation as the RDB ones, though some have used them heavily with no issue on direct blowback 9mms.