Adams Arms Piston Upper

[johnhmpg]

Has anyone bought one of their 556 uppers and if so how do you like it? I seem to find a lot of internet info regarding their conversion kits but not enough about the complete uppers.

 

[clandestine]

Unless you want an AR thats MORE problematic, stay away from all Gas Piston AR Conversions, Uppers, and Complete Rifles.

Its just snake oil and marketing.

 

[BradMacc82]

Unless you want an AR thats MORE problematic, stay away from all Gas Piston AR Conversions, Uppers, and Complete Rifles.

Its just snake oil and marketing.

He speaks truth, I went off and did the 'Piston Experiment', complete upper, no conversion. While it does work reliably now, I wouldn't suggest spending more money if you already have a tried/true working d.i. upper.

If you want piston operated, buy an AK, Piston AR's aren't quite there yet.

 

[fivepointstar]

i was going to say "Don't Let Clandestine see this thread" but its too late now

 

[BradMacc82]

His hatred directed him here very quickly.

 

[johnhmpg]

So it seems the consensus here so far is no for any piston AR? It seems the LWRC as well as the Sig 516 seem to get rave reviews. Is it an inferior product to the DI system or just not that different to justify any additional costs? At $600 for a complete AA piston upper I was interested.

 

[clandestine]

So it seems the consensus here so far is no for any piston AR? It seems the LWRC as well as the Sig 516 seem to get rave reviews. Is it an inferior product to the DI system or just not that different to justify any additional costs? At $600 for a complete AA piston upper I was interested.

The SIG is a copy of the HK Piston AR. And it has breakage issues.

The LWRC is the only Piston AR I would recomend to someone dead set on a Piston AR. You gain no advantage with a Piston AR, and when it breaks something in the gas system or Bolt Group you have one source for parts (The Manufacturer).

Break a D.I. AR and theres thousands of places to locate parts.

Your money, your call.

You couldnt pay me to own ANY Gas Piston AR.

 

[clandestine]

i was going to say "Don't Let Clandestine see this thread" but its too late now

His hatred directed him here very quickly.

You guys make me crack up. You know me too well.

 

[johnhmpg]

The SIG is a copy of the HK Piston AR. And it has breakage issues.

The LWRC is the only Piston AR I would recomend to someone dead set on a Piston AR. You gain no advantage with a Piston AR, and when it breaks something in the gas system or Bolt Group you have one source for parts (The Manufacturer).

Break a D.I. AR and theres thousands of places to locate parts.

Your money, your call.

You couldnt pay me to own ANY Gas Piston AR.

Thanks. The proprietary parts replacement thing hadn't really crossed my mind. So now it's off in search of a DI upper I like.

 

[smokey]

The SIG is a copy of the HK Piston AR. And it has breakage issues.

The LWRC is the only Piston AR I would recomend to someone dead set on a Piston AR. You gain no advantage with a Piston AR, and when it breaks something in the gas system or Bolt Group you have one source for parts (The Manufacturer).

Break a D.I. AR and theres thousands of places to locate parts.

Your money, your call.

You couldnt pay me to own ANY Gas Piston AR.

However, I'd be glad to be paid to own a gas piston ar....especially the lwrc. I you don't feel like paying me, you can just give me the guns and i'll own/shoot them for free. I'm flexible.

This 5.45x39 adams arms gun got a pretty impressive writeup from swat magazine...
http://digital.swatmag.com/SWAT/2011/SWAT1106/?Page=72

 

[dblas]

I own and have ran a POF piston upper for almost two years now with no issues (considering all I do is punch paper and knock down steel) at a leisurely rate. It has about 3K round through it over two years and no issues/breakage yet (knocks on wood).

I would like thoughts on the POF just for grins and giggles.

 

[BradMacc82]

I got a Stag Model 8 (Piston), my only issue with it was it didn't run one type of ammo reliably, that problem has since been rectified. Outside of that I don't really have any bad thing to say about this Brand and Model specifically.

I just wouldn't recommend a piston to someone just yet, there's still some evolving to do and preferably a standardized piston set-up to make them as prolific as a d.i. set-up.

I have 6500+ thru my d.i. upper with no hiccups, aside from bad ammo, and just around 26-2800 thru the piston with the only real problem being that 1 brand of ammo I previously mentioned.

But it's your money, do as you wish, and enjoy.

 

[FFMike]

4200 thru my Sig 516 and no issues.... Accurrate and eats whatever I feed it.

 

[mikec]

However, I'd be glad to be paid to own a gas piston ar....especially the lwrc. I you don't feel like paying me, you can just give me the guns and i'll own/shoot them for free. I'm flexible.

This 5.45x39 adams arms gun got a pretty impressive writeup from swat magazine...
http://digital.swatmag.com/SWAT/2011/SWAT1106/?Page=72

Here is the question, was there any advertising money exchanged between Adams Arms and the magazine?

I didn't read the article you linked to, but how many rounds did the reviewer shoot? How long did he have the gun?

 

[clandestine]

Here is the question, was there any advertising money exchanged between Adams Arms and the magazine?

I didn't read the article you linked to, but how many rounds did the reviewer shoot? How long did he have the gun?

I RARELY recall any mainstream gun magazine reporting NAYTHING negative about a gun they review.

 

[Hopalong]

I RARELY recall any mainstream gun magazine reporting NAYTHING negative about a gun they review.

Many paid publications, not just gun-related ones, are just glorified advertisements these days. If you want a real opinion, go to someone who is not getting compensated for the review and has no stake in the success/failure of the item at hand.

While I have no personal experience with piston ARs, I'm opposed to them on general principle. If it ain't broke, don't fix it and all that jazz. If anyone ever got all of the kinks worked out and standardized the design, I might consider it an option because then it would be an entirely new rifle, not a modification.

 

[sailskidrive]

What about the Hk MMR? Hk claims it's the most reliable AR platform available; and one bit Osama on the butt.

I almost bought a POF upper a while back, however during the process of ordering it I found their customer service person so arogant and obnoxious that I ended up hanging up while on hold. Their uppers were only about $1k back then....

 

[Lex Armarum]

Don't go Sig516, go Sig556. It is a cross between an AR and an AK so it works as a piston operated firearm. My functions flawlessly.

 

[johnhmpg]

So I pulled the trigger on the Adams Arms piston upper. I will post pictures and range results when it get it in.

 

[Forest]

I RARELY recall any mainstream gun magazine reporting NAYTHING negative about a gun they review.

I can tell you don't read SWAT, they've published several bad reveiws (guns & a training course).