A Really Odd Mosin M91/38/44

[iH8DemLibz]

Ya'll gotta see this thing that's on GunBroker: 413150146

It's a cut-down antique (1896) 1891 rifle. Re-made into an M38 carbine. It has an M44 rear sight, an M44 stock, and a LATE 46/47/48 front sight with HEAVY base. The 43/44/45 dated M44 carbines had 91/30 front sights.

Matching receiver/magazine/butt plate. Electro-pencil bolt with older style body/handle. I think the bolt is probably importer marked.

Either this is someone's abortion or it was arsenal rebuilt after 1945 (heavy front sight base). It is widely believed that 1945 was the cut-off date for M38 carbines.

Current bid is 500 dolla.

Check it out.

 

[lee2]

i like it.

 

[USMC 0311]

Very nice!

 

[iH8DemLibz]

i like it.

Cool ain't it.

Curious what she sells for.

In 9+ days we'll know.

 

[mossy33oak]

"Examples from Izhevsk with hex receivers are uncommon with only a handful reported." *copied from 7.62x54.net if this can be proven to be real it's certainly a super rate gun. A big IF

 

[iH8DemLibz]

"Examples from Izhevsk with hex receivers are uncommon with only a handful reported." *copied from 7.62x54.net if this can be proven to be real it's certainly a super rate gun. A big IF

Nothing about the gun makes sense.

Especially that front sight base and globe.

Everything about the gun goes against everything that's ever been published for the last 20 years or so.

 

[MilsurpDan]

Its a M1891/38 Carbine. Its a documented variant that is somewhat uncommon and fairly sought after by collectors. They are M1891s that were cut down into "M38" configuration by the Czechs. More info in the link below

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM9138.htm

 

[Oldcarjunkie]

cool, I never heard of that one.

 

[ken792]

Weren't the Czechs known to have cut down older guns into M38 style rifles?

 

[yellowsled]

Weren't the Czechs known to have cut down older guns into M38 style rifles?

It is in fact 100% a czach made m91/38... Note the Czech "star" below the SN.

 

[mawkie]

Deja vu all over again!

 

[Dave91]

No one has mentioned the infamous Grey Blanket yet. The price on this one could go very high.

 

[yellowsled]

No one has mentioned the infamous Grey Blanket yet. The price on this one could go very high.

yea, he always has the best stuff... You will pay a markup to get his guns though. $$$$$$$$$

 

[mawkie]

Wow, the grey blanket works its magic yet again. A $500 bid with 8 days left. Wonder what my ex-Cossack 91/38s would bring in the place of this example?

 

[mossy33oak]

So being real, how many of you would pay $500+ for this rifle?

 

[yellowsled]

I think $500 (price it sitting now) is a fair price for that. Its a hard to find variation, and its a antique to boot.

 

[Dave91]

yea, he always has the best stuff... You will pay a markup to get his guns though. $$$$$$$$$

He always has a lot of items that make me drool, but the bids stack up fast. I've actually won an item from him at a very fair price though.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

Wish I had never sold my like-new, 1945 dated M38 in an M38 stock.

If the GB carbine were in an M38 stock, I think it would go for more money.

I'm going with 625 for a final bid.

 

[yellowsled]

Wish I had never sold my like-new, 1945 dated M38 in an M38 stock.

If the GB carbine were in an M38 stock, I think it would go for more money.

I'm going with 625 for a final bid.

I think though it (this one) will go well north of 625... prolly go for 800-900

 

[h2u]

Sigh-I remember paying between $275-$325 for all of my 91/38's...only about five years ago. If made from a less common M91 (Chatellerault or Sestroryetsk) they have always gone for pretty big bucks- $1000 range.

Normally I'd say this would go $600-$750. On the gray blanket, I wouldn't be surprised if it approaches $1000.