45-70 primers?

[Sam Salvati]

I am new to reloading, what size primers do I want?

 

[coopermania]

Large Rifle or depending on powder Large Rifle Magnum

 

[Sam Salvati]

OK thanks.

 

[byf43]

Winchester Large Rifle primers are what I use, along with Alliant Reloader 7 powder. Cast Performance 405 gr LWNGC boolits. Remington and/or Federal cases.

Great accuracy. Low(er) pressures. Not real hard on the shoulder.
Knocks the intended target's _ _ _ _ in the dirt.

 

[Sam Salvati]

Thanks Byf43. I have a 405 grain die set from Lee. Went looking online for primers wow, ghost town.

 

[Biggfoot44]

405gr die set ? Is that a 405gr bullet mold , or a 3 die set , or perhaps both ? LEE dies work fine , just making sure.

As mentioned by Bfy43 , RL-7 is a popular choice.

As you may well know .45-70 has been offered over the years in a wide variety of rifle ( and handguns ) of wide range of strengths. For this reason .45-70 is unique in having THREE different catagories of pressures for handloads. Owners of stronger guns can ( and frequently do ) use milder loads from preference , but the reverse practice is Not a Good Thing.

If you give us a clue to your (presumably) rifle and/or your intended load type we can point you in (probably multiple) directions .

 

[SKIP]

I am new to reloading, what size primers do I want?

CAUTION: Are you shooting a modern day 45/70 or a trapdoor? I have a trapdoor and I have to reload to 1870 year pressures.

 

[byf43]

Thanks Byf43. I have a 405 grain die set from Lee. Went looking online for primers wow, ghost town.

405gr die set ? Is that a 405gr bullet mold , or a 3 die set , or perhaps both ?
LEE dies work fine , just making sure.

As mentioned by Bfy43 , RL-7 is a popular choice.

As you may well know .45-70 has been offered over the years in a wide variety of rifle ( and handguns ) of wide range of strengths. For this reason .45-70 is unique in having THREE different catagories of pressures for handloads. Owners of stronger guns can ( and frequently do ) use milder loads from preference , but the reverse practice is Not a Good Thing.

If you give us a clue to your (presumably) rifle and/or your intended load type we can point you in (probably multiple) directions .

I was gonna ask the same thing.

Sam, I've never heard of a particular bullet weight, die set. ??? ???

Typically, loading dies are made/produced for a particular caliber, and the seater plug is shaped for different shaped (duh!) boolits.
RN, WC, SWC, FP, etc.

CAUTION: Are you shooting a modern day 45/70 or a trapdoor? I have a trapdoor and I have to reload to 1870 year pressures.

GREAT point.

Sam, if you can be more specific on what you're going to load for, there are some very knowledgeable guys on here, that can steer you in the right direction.
(I've even been known to give a good reply, once in a while.)

 

[coopermania]

(I've even been known to give a good reply, once in a while.)

suck ass

 

[byf43]

(I've even been known to give a good reply, once in a while.)

suck ass

Nah. Just honest.

 

[coopermania]

Nah. Just honest.

Hahahaha.....

 

[Sam Salvati]

Thanks fellas haha!

405gr die set ? Is that a 405gr bullet mold , or a 3 die set , or perhaps both ? LEE dies work fine , just making sure.

As mentioned by Bfy43 , RL-7 is a popular choice.

As you may well know .45-70 has been offered over the years in a wide variety of rifle ( and handguns ) of wide range of strengths. For this reason .45-70 is unique in having THREE different catagories of pressures for handloads. Owners of stronger guns can ( and frequently do ) use milder loads from preference , but the reverse practice is Not a Good Thing.

If you give us a clue to your (presumably) rifle and/or your intended load type we can point you in (probably multiple) directions .

CAUTION: Are you shooting a modern day 45/70 or a trapdoor? I have a trapdoor and I have to reload to 1870 year pressures.

Sorry for lack of clarification, and I misused a term. I have Lee's die set for 45-70, and the bullet mold is 405 grain. I was not aware there's different die sets for different grain bullets?

Sadly not shooting something as cool as a trapdoor, It's a H&R buffalo classic, my intro to 45-70 (not my last).

Some folks say it can be loaded to ruger no1, but I dont think so, so keeping to the lower side of lever guns and upper side of antiques.

 

[byf43]

When I started loading for my Marlin 1895G, I read everything I could get my hands on, for loading this grand old "catridge"!

I've got a bad back and neck, and I can't take too much 'battering' according to my surgeons.

Here's a GREAT article (IMNSHO, anyway!) on loading for the .45-70.

http://www.realguns.com/archives/117.htm

http://www.realguns.com/loads/4570cast.htm

I use the Cast Performance 405 gr LWNGC boolit, and Reloader 7 (aka/ RL7), because from what I've read, (and others have told me) it produces good velocity with lower pressures, compared to other powders.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Buffalo Classics are fine rifles, and the octagon bbl will give a more muzzle foreward balance , and slightly more wt overall than the std N&R/ NEF .45-70 . That said , disregard any thought of loads anywhere near the level of a Ruger No1 ( or No3). You should be looking at *Class I* aka Trapdoor level loads. This rifle is a "bit" stronger , but nowhere near *ClassII* aka Marlin level loads . Loads within these levels can be plenty potent , so you have no cause to feel under gunned.

Extensive data is out there for virtually any powder from pistol powders , thru the slowest rifle powders. And yes , medium rifle powders in the 3031/4895 have a large following , there are highly experienced handloaders who swear by all aproaches , including Real Black.

 

[Sam Salvati]

I have Lee's reloading book and was advised to read and understand the differences from trapdoor pressures to ruger no1 levels. I need powder and primers then I can start putting info to boolit haha. Thanks for the help fellas.

Biggfoot, I wish it was octagonal!

 

[SKIP]

The Lee loading book should have a section only for trapdoor rifles. At least my old Lee book does.