2024 MGA Session

[Doctor_M]

If retraining for ND is the worst they do to us this year, I would be happy.

 

[Allen65]

Daniel Webster, the best that Bloomburg can buy.

I thought Bloomberg was richer than that?

 

[K-Romulus]

Folks may not have seen this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/17/maryland-gun-ammo-tax-trauma-fund/

"A bill from Sen. Sarah K. Elfreth (D-Anne Arundel) and Del. Bernice D. Mireku-North (D-Montgomery) would levy an 11 percent excise tax on gun and ammunition manufacturers to feed the Maryland Trauma Physician Services Fund. That fund helps cover emergency medical care for severely injured patients — often people harmed in falls, car accidents or gun violence — and is supported by a $5 motor vehicle registration fee."

and:

"Gun rights advocates cast the lawmakers’ pitch Wednesday as an affront to constitutional rights. The lawmakers backing it, who include Sen. William C. Smith Jr. (D-Montgomery) and Dels. Emily Shetty (D-Montgomery), Jazz Lewis (D-Prince George’s) and Jessica Feldmark (D-Howard), say the measure will protect public health by not only paying for treatment but also funding programs that aim to prevent gun violence."

As an aside, Mireku-North is an unelected appointee to the delegate seat, and is backfill for the smirking anti-gunowner Eric Luedtke, who was given a post in the lesMoore admin.

 

[Doctor_M]

Heard this on the news today... three seconds later Gov. Waste Moore is saying no new taxes... give me a f-ing break.

 

[BurkeM]

I believe the law is set up that, if any wear and carry permit holder shoots and kills anyone outside of his home, it will be minimum of manslaughter and couple gun charges.

BGOS. Acute paranoia. There will be an investigation and circumstances will dictate the decision by the State's Attorney and/or Grand Jury.

 

[BurkeM]

Folks may not have seen this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/17/maryland-gun-ammo-tax-trauma-fund/

"A bill from Sen. Sarah K. Elfreth (D-Anne Arundel) and Del. Bernice D. Mireku-North (D-Montgomery) would levy an 11 percent excise tax on gun and ammunition manufacturers to feed the Maryland Trauma Physician Services Fund.

The new poll tax.

 

[pleasant1911]

BGOS. Acute paranoia. There will be an investigation and circumstances will dictate the decision by the State's Attorney and/or Grand Jury.

Perhaps. If a permit holder uses is weapon to defend Himself at a location where he was not supposed to be carrying, isn’t that a crime of unlawfully shooting someone and using a firearm in an unlawful manner?

My previous post was out of frustration

 

[BurkeM]

Perhaps. If a permit holder uses is weapon to defend Himself at a location where he was not supposed to be carrying, isn’t that a crime of unlawfully shooting someone and using a firearm in an unlawful manner?

My previous post was out of frustration

understandable.

 

[Phoenix_1295]

Folks may not have seen this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/17/maryland-gun-ammo-tax-trauma-fund/

For those who can’t access Washington Post link, here’s another source -

Lawmakers propose taxing dealers and manufacturers of guns, ammunition to fund Maryland trauma system - Maryland Matters

Some Maryland lawmakers propose legislation to implement an excise tax on manufacturers and dealers of guns and ammunition.

www.marylandmatters.org

 

[Uncle Duke]

If retraining for ND is the worst they do to us this year, I would be happy.

God forbid they focused on real problems.

Another annual example that accidental or negligent discharge is what created these cockroaches to begin with.

 

[lazarus]

Perhaps. If a permit holder uses is weapon to defend Himself at a location where he was not supposed to be carrying, isn’t that a crime of unlawfully shooting someone and using a firearm in an unlawful manner?

My previous post was out of frustration

No.

You'd be facing up to a 1 year penalty for being a permit holder and carrying in a place where you could not lawfully have it.

Just like a felon in possession who uses the firearm in self defense, so long as they can show it was self defense, they aren't not going to face homicide charges.

Self defense is self defense, it does not matter the means used.

That doesn't "absolve" of being a felon in possession in the eyes of the law. Just like being a HGP holder with a handgun in a place you should not have it does not absolve you of breaking that law. But it doesn't turn it into homicide if you use the handgun in self defense.*

I would hope like hell a prosecutor would exercise that discretion and not bring charges. But I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

*A note, some felony murder statutes specifically call out that self defense is not a defense to homicide if you are committing a forcible felony already. So you can't argue self defense is you are just an honest bank robber handing over a threating note and then someone pulls a gun on you. I mean, clear cut self defense, right that the honest bank robber pulls out a gun and shoots the guy, right?

 

[dblas]

Perhaps. If a permit holder uses is weapon to defend Himself at a location where he was not supposed to be carrying, isn’t that a crime of unlawfully shooting someone and using a firearm in an unlawful manner?

Again, no such law in State Statute....At most it would possession of a firearm in a restricted location.

My previous post was out of frustration

Still BGOS, to include your latest one.

 

[eruby]

The MGA can:

 

[mac1_131]

Indeed. No self reporting or retraining required for non-permit holders;

"Requiring a person who holds a handgun permit and accidentally discharges a firearm to register within 90 days for a certain firearms safety training course and complete the course within 6 months of the incident; requiring the Secretary of State Police to revoke a handgun permit of a certain person who fails to successfully complete a certain firearms safety training course; requiring the Secretary to provide certain written notice to a person whose handgun permit is revoked; etc."

Please fill out an online voluntary MSP form 22L if you accidentally discharge your carry weapon to self-report the incident...

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[K-Romulus]

There are bills trickling in, and I don't want to clog up this thread with a bazillion posts for each one (dblas is already doing a good job of separate threads).

Folks can go to the MGA website and use the Filter query for "firearm" or other keywords to see what is filed:

House: https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Index/house
Senate: https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/mgawebsite/Legislation/Index/senate

One particular bill that stands out because it has a bunch of cosponsors -

HB430 Insurance requirement for anyone "carrying" a firearm

(no exclusion for home carry; if convicted you supposedly "lose" your right to own/possess any firearm, but can get the charge dismissed pre-trial or remove the post-trial prohibition if you obtain said insurance coverage)

Synopsis

Altering the circumstances under which a person is disqualified from possessing a regulated firearm, a rifle, and a shotgun; prohibiting a person from wearing or carrying a firearm under certain circumstances unless the person has obtained certain liability insurance related to wearing and carrying a firearm up to $300,000; providing for the form and issuance of a citation for a violation of the Act; etc.

 

[RFBfromDE]

Synopsis

Altering the circumstances under which a person is disqualified from possessing a regulated firearm, a rifle, and a shotgun; prohibiting a person from wearing or carrying a firearm under certain circumstances unless the person has obtained certain liability insurance related to wearing and carrying a firearm up to $300,000; providing for the form and issuance of a citation for a violation of the Act; etc.

Previously shot down (HAR!) in NJ, yes?

 

[Mi.Lee]

The new poll tax.

I saw the news report but have not located the bill as of yet. That is definitely on my list of things I have to send an email to my friendly legislators about. Has anyone noticed that the pictures of the guns the Baltimore City Police are taking from the criminals? Even if they did not fire the gun, they have a less than full magazine with all kinds of rounds. Or is it just me? It is pretty evident that the criminals are not stocking up at bass pro before runs. I would think that one would carry a magazine with all the same ammo for consistency.

 

[RFBfromDE]

I saw the news report but have not located the bill as of yet. That is definitely on my list of things I have to send an email to my friendly legislators about. Has anyone noticed that the pictures of the guns the Baltimore City Police are taking from the criminals? Even if they did not fire the gun, they have a less than full magazine with all kinds of rounds. Or is it just me? It is pretty evident that the criminals are not stocking up at bass pro before runs. I would think that one would carry a magazine with all the same ammo for consistency.

You idiot!

They are too busy getting trained up for their W&C and insurance shopping to worry about such trifles!

 

[Mark75H]

Previously shot down (HAR!) in NJ, yes?

Won't stop MGA

 

[Occam]

"We have got to confront this inexcusable fact that 75% of all homicides in Maryland are committed with a gun," Moore said. "This is a public safety crisis, but it's also a public health crisis.”

Yup. We need to get those murders back to the classics, baseball bats and knives and other medieval methods. Those edged weapon deaths are rookie numbers! It's for The Health.