10mm

[amickey1979]

Recently acquired a Smith and Wesson M&P in 10mm. I want to fire full power ammo, or close to it, in the gun. I seem to have gathered that the stuff for self defense is going to run me over 1$ per round. I need suggestions on range ammo. I would also like some insight into self defense ammo as this is going to be a woods gun. I have concerns about 2 and 4 legged predators. TIA.

 

[Magnumite]

Try here...they have a sale and free shipping going on. You have to spend some for the free shipping...

Natchez

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[Squaregrouper]

Recently acquired a Smith and Wesson M&P in 10mm. I want to fire full power ammo, or close to it, in the gun. I seem to have gathered that the stuff for self defense is going to run me over 1$ per round. I need suggestions on range ammo. I would also like some insight into self defense ammo as this is going to be a woods gun. I have concerns about 2 and 4 legged predators. TIA.

Read the ballistics before any purchase. Many commercial 10mm rounds are nothing more than .40 in 10mm brass. For plinking loads that are "real" 10mm, but not really hot, these are pretty tough to beat.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-10mm-auto-ammo-180-grain-fmj-50rd-box.html

Save your brass, guys like me will buy it from you.

 

[jimbobborg]

If you don't reload,

https://palmettostatearmory.com/sig-sauer-10mm-180gr-fmj-elite-ball-ammunition-50rds-e10mb1-50.html for practice since it matches the ballistics of https://palmettostatearmory.com/sig...te-performance-ammunition-20rds-10mm1-20.html which is fine for 2 legged threats. https://underwoodammo.com/10mm-auto-220gr.-flat-nose-black-cherry-coated-hard-cast-hunting-ammo/ for critters that want to eat you.

 

[manderson]

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[dist1646]

I thought this was going to be about a lost socket. LOL!

 

[chale127]

Read the ballistics before any purchase. Many commercial 10mm rounds are nothing more than .40 in 10mm brass. For plinking loads that are "real" 10mm, but not really hot, these are pretty tough to beat.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-10mm-auto-ammo-180-grain-fmj-50rd-box.html

Save your brass, guys like me will buy it from you.

Great advice
Welcome to the ".40 Magnum" man round

 

[Growler215]

I have concerns about 2 and 4 legged predators.

Sounds like a capable cartridge. I hear dudes in Alaska are carrying 10mm for bear defense.

 

[Squaregrouper]

Sounds like a capable cartridge. I hear dudes in Alaska are carrying 10mm for bear defense.

The Glock 20 is the #1 outdoor carry gun up there. Full house 10mm has a little more punch than a .357 Magnum and the G20 holds 15+1 rounds and weighs significantly less than a big bore revolver.
I'm not a huge fan of Glocks, but that logic is tough to argue with.

 

[Alutacon]

The Glock 20 is the #1 outdoor carry gun up there. Full house 10mm has a little more punch than a .357 Magnum and the G20 holds 15+1 rounds and weighs significantly less than a big bore revolver.
I'm not a huge fan of Glocks, but that logic is tough to argue with.

FN 510 holds 22 +1

 

[atblis]

Have you considered handloading? I don't mean reloading, but rather buying primed brass and adding your powder and bullet and seating. Minimal work to do this. SIG sells new primed cases, among others

I just did the spreadsheet math on the all that. Assuming you're buying at $1 a round, I come up with a cost of $0.66 per round when buying all the components. It would take you 331 rounds to break even on the equipment costs.

This is assuming
Bullets for $25/100
Powder $40 lb, 7.5 gr charge
Primed Brass $33/100
Equipment Costs $125 (press, dies, powder measure, scale)

Use a good metering powder like CFE Pistol, and it'll throw pretty much dead on. One complication is that you may find it necessary to flare the case for bullet seating. It's not a big deal, just adds an extra step that takes time. A good chamfer may obviate the need for flaring, though I've never tried that on pistol rounds as I have a progressive press with room for a flaring stage.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Yes , case belling is a standard part of handgun ctg loading .

Better price break on larger than 100 quanity of bullets .

You will want a slower powder than CFE for full house 10mm .

I've long been outspoken about getting your feet wet handloading with thrifty initial outlay . But if your planning for a decent Powder Measure , Plus a scale that doesn't suck , in 2024 the outlay will be closer to $200 than $125 .


I'm not totally clear . Are you proposing only using factory primed Cades, and discarding after firing? ie flare , fill , seat , and crimp only ? Or also allow for reusing of cases you personally fired the first time ?

 

[amickey1979]

What powder would you reccomend?

 

[Biggfoot44]

Popular favorites include Longshot , Blue Dot , AA 7 , 800-X , for " mainstream full power " .

The usual faster powders can be used for .40 S&W equivalent loads .

For Extra Hot , some slow powders are added to the first group . ( But don't go there , until you have mastered load development for " mainstream full " .)

 

[slsc98]

Have you considered handloading? I don't mean reloading, but rather buying primed brass and adding your powder and bullet and seating. Minimal work to do this. SIG sells new primed cases, among others

I just did the spreadsheet math on the all that. Assuming you're buying at $1 a round, I come up with a cost of $0.66 per round when buying all the components. It would take you 331 rounds to break even on the equipment costs.

This is assuming
Bullets for $25/100
Powder $40 lb, 7.5 gr charge
Primed Brass $33/100
Equipment Costs $125 (press, dies, powder measure, scale)

Use a good metering powder like CFE Pistol, and it'll throw pretty much dead on. One complication is that you may find it necessary to flare the case for bullet seating. It's not a big deal, just adds an extra step that takes time. A good chamfer may obviate the need for flaring, though I've never tried that on pistol rounds as I have a progressive press with room for a flaring stage.

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[jimbobborg]

I use a just below max load of Blue Dot behind a polymer coated 180gr lead bullet and get over 1400 fps with no pressure signs. I have tested it in a Dan Wesson Silverback and a S&W 610 with 4" barrel. I have not tested (and used a cronograph) this load with my Ruger 3" GP100, 4.25" SA XM10, or 6" TRP Operater yet.

 

[FN509Fan]

If you look up some reloading data, you can see what the max/hot loads are. Then look for factory rounds that list similar velocities.

Buffalo Bore has some great 10mm rounds.

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[Magnumite]

I use a just below max load of Blue Dot behind a polymer coated 180gr lead bullet and get over 1400 fps with no pressure signs. I have tested it in a Dan Wesson Silverback and a S&W 610 with 4" barrel. I have not tested (and used a cronograph) this load with my Ruger 3" GP100, 4.25" SA XM10, or 6" TRP Operater yet.

Is that 1400 fps from the Silverback and S&W 610?

 

[jimbobborg]

Is that 1400 fps from the Silverback and S&W 610?

Yes.

 

[slsc98]

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