Laugh at us like after all the times he's been thwarted, he finally has the upper hand, think of the 2 bad guys in Home Alone when they finally get their hands on the kid. Hopefully MSI, SAF, NRA will be like the old man with the snow shovel.
Baltimore Sun: Gun haters Frosh and Raskin are coming for your rifles
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Laugh at us like after all the times he's been thwarted, he finally has the upper hand, think of the 2 bad guys in Home Alone when they finally get their hands on the kid. Hopefully MSI, SAF, NRA will be like the old man with the snow shovel.
HollowPoint
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You should finish reading the conversation between Zoo and I before foaming at the mouth.
read: http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=1993136&postcount=106
I manned up and admitted my error. We're all on the same side here and freedom & liberty is at stake. I in no way desire to throw anyone under the bus. And Zookeeper showed me where my thinking was wrong and could fracture the solidarity of 2A adherents which I in no way want to do.
You, however, inadvertently, added credibility to that argument. http://ssristories.com/index.php Foam at the mouth and "Shoot" from the hip much?
Frosh & the libs may be founding their arguments on gun ownership and mental stability, though their "intent" is otherwise. Anyone who says that mental stability is not an issue regarding access to guns and exhibited violent behavior is as much a moron as Frosh & the libs - no matter who they are trying to protect.
You need to chill!
read: http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=1993136&postcount=106
I manned up and admitted my error. We're all on the same side here and freedom & liberty is at stake. I in no way desire to throw anyone under the bus. And Zookeeper showed me where my thinking was wrong and could fracture the solidarity of 2A adherents which I in no way want to do.
You, however, inadvertently, added credibility to that argument. http://ssristories.com/index.php Foam at the mouth and "Shoot" from the hip much?
Frosh & the libs may be founding their arguments on gun ownership and mental stability, though their "intent" is otherwise. Anyone who says that mental stability is not an issue regarding access to guns and exhibited violent behavior is as much a moron as Frosh & the libs - no matter who they are trying to protect.
You need to chill!
First they complain that handgun crime is the problem and say handguns need to be regulated. They say citizens should not be able to carry concealed handguns as long guns are an option. Then they say long guns are the problem.
When gov't regulation of in other areas requires a cost/benefit analysis, why does other legislation not require scientific proof it will achieve the desired outcome. In CCW arguments, our side argues that increasing CCW in FL has not led to blood in the streets.
Can anyone provide a link to research by independent firms supporting our position re: AR-15's in circulation and changes in law (e.g. in California) have not made an impact?
When gov't regulation of in other areas requires a cost/benefit analysis, why does other legislation not require scientific proof it will achieve the desired outcome. In CCW arguments, our side argues that increasing CCW in FL has not led to blood in the streets.
Can anyone provide a link to research by independent firms supporting our position re: AR-15's in circulation and changes in law (e.g. in California) have not made an impact?
HollowPoint
Aged Member
perhaps this link would help: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-20
If you show that firearm sales are up, in some cases almost 50% and that link shows how murder rates have dropped in each state with stats. But notice that many of the states with the most severe gun restrictions have higher rates of murder. Shows there is no correlation to increased gun sales and blood on the streets.
It's not AR-15 specific but maybe this would help.
gamer_jim
Podcaster
Within the last week I've heard both O'malley and Obama say that "assault weapons" are not needed for hunting or protecting your family. Did they really just admit we have a right to defend ourselves? I wonder if our push for shall issue could be affected by all this. I've even heard folks in the liberal media say "not even for protection" which to me means they recognize some need for protection.
CrueChief
Cocker Dad/RIP Bella
Storm40
Ultimate Member
The pres said something on the 11:45 press conference on wbal yesterday, about the people having the right to bear arms, "which they do" <-- quote
see, this is the antis typical goal post moving. now that they think they can ban anything other than six shot revolvers and shotguns, they can afford to bend a little on that self-defense nonsense. <-- sarcasm, of course.
see, this is the antis typical goal post moving. now that they think they can ban anything other than six shot revolvers and shotguns, they can afford to bend a little on that self-defense nonsense. <-- sarcasm, of course.
herkybird72
2A Defender
Those that don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it, here we go again.
FrankOceanXray
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- Oct 29, 2008
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Flipped the TV on today and chapped my butt to hear a police chief saying no citizens should own "hi capacity magazines".
The first line of police are the public, us. "The public are the police, the police are the public", would say Sir Robert Peel.
The first line of police are the public, us. "The public are the police, the police are the public", would say Sir Robert Peel.
The reason I saw that is because it's so much easier to fight when your opponent's true motives are known.
Legally speaking...
Bohlieve410
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- Feb 21, 2011
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