ATF to Issue New Ruling on Monday regarding New Restrictions on Shotgun Importation

h2u · Jan 21, 2011

Interesting development...
Should all of this go down - does anyone know if a Saiga is stamped as an SBS, will we need another stamp for DD?

clandestine said:
Banned Importation almost assured. Get one now IMHO if you want one.

There is a possible reclassification to Destructive Device like the Street Sweepers. BATFE will forgo the $200 manufacturing for the D.D., but it will have to have a Tax Stamp if they get their way.

clandestine · Jan 21, 2011

h2u said:
Interesting development...
Should all of this go down - does anyone know if a Saiga is stamped as an SBS, will we need another stamp for DD?

Now thats a head scratcher there. Im betting it will need another stamp, but Im no expert in that area.

Good news is your sitting on a S12 gold mine.

clandestine · Jan 21, 2011

zombiehunter said:
Wow...I knew this was coming I'm so glad I got one
What's going to happen to those of us who have them?

If importation is baned, nothing, just enjoy a doubling in value. Sad news is a retarded gunsmith converted yours so its worth 1/8th of its value. Ill buy it back for $300

If declared a DD it will ban importation AND it will require a D.D. Tax Stamp, Engraving, ect.....

h2u · Jan 21, 2011

clandestine said:
Now thats a head scratcher there. Im betting it will need another stamp, but Im no expert in that area.

Good news is your sitting on a S12 gold mine.

Sooner than I expected too

clandestine · Jan 21, 2011

h2u said:
Sooner than I expected too

I like you and hate you all at the same time.

bdiddle · Jan 21, 2011

Darnit.

And no money to go blow on one right now

h2u · Jan 21, 2011

clandestine said:
I like you and hate you all at the same time.

I truly hope it doesn't go down like we're fearing, but if it does....I guess those Tromix shotguns I purchased might not be as "way overpriced" as everyone kept insisting afterall :innocent0

....and we thought Tony's waitlist was bad before

clandestine · Jan 21, 2011

h2u said:
I truly hope it doesn't go down like we're fearing, but if it does....I guess those Tromix shotguns I purchased might not be as "way overpriced" as everyone kept insisting afterall

....and we thought Tony's waitlist was bad before

They will be very desireable.

clandestine · Jan 21, 2011

bdiddle said:
Darnit.

And no money to go blow on one right now

I know this gay guy, he pays well. :innocent0

zombiehunter · Jan 21, 2011

clandestine said:
If importation is baned, nothing, just enjoy a doubling in value. Sad news is a retarded gunsmith converted yours so its worth 1/8th of its value. Ill buy it back for $300

If declared a DD it will ban importation AND it will require a D.D. Tax Stamp, Engraving, ect.....

Dammit...I knew I got the wrong kind of job from you

THier · Jan 21, 2011

What if your sport is blasting zombies,,, that would REQUIRE a full auto, with a MONSTER mag,,, I'm talking say 100 rounds,, MINIMUM.
I like their new law.

Tom

2SAM22 · Jan 21, 2011

Will it affect the guns already out there? Will people have to get a stamp for the gun they already own?

Ab_Normal · Jan 21, 2011

MikeTF said:
The 2nd amendment is not about 'sporting purposes'.

Exactly! If I have to defend my life/family/country I don't want it to be a "sporting event" - infering that both sides are evenly matched.

I want to have the odds overly stacked in my favor with overwhelming firepower. :gun7:

Ab_Normal · Jan 21, 2011

2SAM22 said:
Will it affect the guns already out there? Will people have to get a stamp for the gun they already own?

Only time will tell. I predict they will declare the 20 rd mags the "DD" since they are detachable unlike the fixed mag on the Streesweeper. The 20 rd mag was the main reason the SS was "bad"...and the name.

Hopalong · Jan 21, 2011

Is it sad that I'm tempted to run out and buy one right now?

hvymax · Jan 21, 2011

3 gun is a recognized sport and it is just as effective as any other smooth bore slug gun for hunting and any cylinder bore for clays,3gun,steel plates or hunting. We need a new clays sport where they throw the birds continously necessitating the high cap mags. If we can demonstrate that it is useful at all for any sport then it would meet the definition of sporting.

Kharn · Jan 21, 2011

3-gun isn't recognized by the ATF as a sporting purpose IIRC, they only consider hunting game.

Hopalong · Jan 21, 2011

So, in relation to my above post: if I were to run out, buy a Saiga-12 along with a 20-round drum and a conversion kit this weekend, what's the worst that would happen to me aside from potentially being out the money? Is it possible/likely that I'd be stuck needing to file for a DD stamp in order to actually assemble it or do you think ATF would allow some sort of grace period?

Or am I reading this entirely wrong?

aquaman · Jan 21, 2011

Why are we alll speculating it will be the Saiga? I have not seen anything factual on this. And besides, even if they do we have a pro-gun congress and momentum nationally.

annihilation-time · Jan 21, 2011

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms FOR SPORTING PURPOSES shall not be infringed.

ATF to Issue New Ruling on Monday regarding New Restrictions on Shotgun Importation

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