I've seen drums on some rifles at gun shows and they hold a lot more than 20 rounds. Maybe ATF wants to make a statement to the Russians by banning some imports - probably political in nature.
ATF to Issue New Ruling on Monday regarding New Restrictions on Shotgun Importation
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I've seen drums on some rifles at gun shows and they hold a lot more than 20 rounds. Maybe ATF wants to make a statement to the Russians by banning some imports - probably political in nature.
ericoak
don't drop Aboma on me
It has a bore over .50 inch too.
Voodoods
Member
Any for sale?
This was going to be my next purchase anyway. I saw one person mention that they can't get them in. Does anyone have them at this point? And what is the going price?
This was going to be my next purchase anyway. I saw one person mention that they can't get them in. Does anyone have them at this point? And what is the going price?
I would argue that the 2A does not protect sporting guns. The purpose was to make sure the citizenry was well armed in order to keep the government honest. In the Miller case, (1920's ??). IIRC, Miller argued that he could have a sawed off shotgun because of the 2A. The court ruled that a sawed off shotgun served no military purpose. Using this as precedent, one can surmise that military weapons should be protected. An assault shotgun would be most useful....
- Nov 14, 2010
- 20,274
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In the simplest of terms, you are spot on, but ...
This is why liberals and the gov'ment try to frame the discussion in terms of WHAT 2A protects, instead of WHO it protects ... and from WHOM.
My little disertation was aimed at beating them at their own game by questioning the logic, legality, and fiction in their thought process.
In the simplest of terms, you are spot on, but ...
This is why liberals and the gov'ment try to frame the discussion in terms of WHAT 2A protects, instead of WHO it protects ... and from WHOM.
My little disertation was aimed at beating them at their own game by questioning the logic, legality, and fiction in their thought process.
Fisher85
Member
- Jan 8, 2011
- 59
this sucks
240 towles
master of puppets
negative, eagle pass texas, though mexicans probably make them since eagle pass is right on the border.
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ATF encourages submission of comments no later than May 1, 2011.
ATF encourages submission of comments no later than May 1, 2011.
Markp
Ultimate Member
- Dec 22, 2008
- 9,392
I doubt that any comments will matter much.
This "ruling" has the possibility to ban the importation of the IAC trench guns also, because they have a bayon lug.
LongTom
Active Member
PEOPLE,
Please be aware and fully understand that the commenting on this item is NOT to determine what is a legitimate sporting purpose of a shotgun.
The comments are to gauge WHAT IS THE LARGEST POLITICALLY ACCEPTABLE CHUNK THEY CAN REMOVED FROM THE 2ND AMENDMENT without significant backlash.
They have already decided they are going to try to do something. They SIMPLY want to figure out what the public will not destroy them for. When they originally began drafting this study, they had JUST submitted their budget requests and NEED TO JUSTIFY THEIR SUBMISSION.
Figuring out the largest chunk will justify their budget in the largest capacity possible while still keeping "we the people" subdued enough to let it slide.
The best thing you can do FOR NOW is let them know this, as little as it's going to do. You can write to the ATF shotgun study directly by using this email.
shotgunstudy@atf.gov
My apologies for not reading the entire twenty pages of this thread.
Please be aware and fully understand that the commenting on this item is NOT to determine what is a legitimate sporting purpose of a shotgun.
The comments are to gauge WHAT IS THE LARGEST POLITICALLY ACCEPTABLE CHUNK THEY CAN REMOVED FROM THE 2ND AMENDMENT without significant backlash.
They have already decided they are going to try to do something. They SIMPLY want to figure out what the public will not destroy them for. When they originally began drafting this study, they had JUST submitted their budget requests and NEED TO JUSTIFY THEIR SUBMISSION.
Figuring out the largest chunk will justify their budget in the largest capacity possible while still keeping "we the people" subdued enough to let it slide.
The best thing you can do FOR NOW is let them know this, as little as it's going to do. You can write to the ATF shotgun study directly by using this email.
shotgunstudy@atf.gov
My apologies for not reading the entire twenty pages of this thread.
Al Norris
Spud Head
OK Sports Fans .....
On Friday, the President signed “Fiscal Year 2012 Agriculture, Commerce/Justice/Science (CJS) and Transportation/Housing/Urban Development (THUD) Appropriations bills” into law.
Why should you take note of this? Because in a little noticed section, that has passed completely under the radar of just about everyone, is this little gem:
Read more about it here: http://www.ammoland.com/2011/11/19/little-noticed-provision-kills-atf-shotgun-ban-plans/
On Friday, the President signed “Fiscal Year 2012 Agriculture, Commerce/Justice/Science (CJS) and Transportation/Housing/Urban Development (THUD) Appropriations bills” into law.
Why should you take note of this? Because in a little noticed section, that has passed completely under the radar of just about everyone, is this little gem:
SEC. 541. None of the funds made available by this Act may be used to pay the salaries or expenses of personnel to deny, or fail to act on, an application for the importation of any model of shotgun if–
(1) all other requirements of law with respect to the proposed importation are met; and
(2) no application for the importation of such model of shotgun, in the same configuration, had been denied by the Attorney General prior to January 1, 2011, on the basis that the shotgun was not particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.
(2) no application for the importation of such model of shotgun, in the same configuration, had been denied by the Attorney General prior to January 1, 2011, on the basis that the shotgun was not particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.
Read more about it here: http://www.ammoland.com/2011/11/19/little-noticed-provision-kills-atf-shotgun-ban-plans/
Markp
Ultimate Member
- Dec 22, 2008
- 9,392
I like it!
Sev
"Vern"
so you think this will finally bring saiga's back down in price?
Markp
Ultimate Member
- Dec 22, 2008
- 9,392
Dunno, I do know that I was right about comments not mattering one f'ing bit to the ATF... They decided that shotguns with any 1 feature were not sporting...
I have a big bag of F/U for those clowns. (I'm talking about the bureau-rats and policy wonks, not worker bee's)
I'd like to see the next administration put someone in who will undue most of the rulings.
I'd volunteer for the job... want to see a whole bunch of BS rulings go... I'd review them all and the sucky ones would be out the door tomorrow.
Sev89
Dreams about cheese
Got a message the other day from the NRA about. Perhaps now I'll be able afford one! I wonder how many people in the Brady bunch are throwing temper tantrums about this 
It was more then one item they got through:
http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2011/11/this-is-what-nra-does-well.html
http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2011/11/this-is-what-nra-does-well.html
Patrick
MSI Executive Member
Until next year. It's only a one-year (de)authorization. But if Obama loses re-election and/or the Republicans gain Congressional seats, then things will quiet down. Otherwise...
Gold/Silver are commodities that trade on the whims of man. Unfortunate that the trade of our civil rights does the same to guns, too.
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