on to something good, here.

Nemesis · Jan 17, 2012

so today, while working on the saiga 223, i came across something which may interest people a fair bit.

you know how the AK trigger has always been cursed with a long pull? well...i've figured out a way, with no modification to the firearm, to turn that long pull into a 1/16" total pull before the hammer is released.

im not ready to say anything detailed about it...i will be updating everyone as everything goes on and it progresses.

basically its like a match trigger for the AK...right now my saiga 223 has a 1/16" pull and about a 4 pound break, and everything is functioning perfectly.

edit:

how did that damn ' , ' get into my title >.< lol

Nemesis · Jan 17, 2012

clandestine · Jan 17, 2012

I do work similar to this. I add weld to the underside of the Trigger Tail. Often you have to make Disconnector Adjustments to prevent Disconnector Hangup and Trigger Slap.

Only problem with shortening up an AK Trigger is they become less reliable when dirty. That long pull gets MUCH shorter when the gun is fouled or carboned up inside. They will have "hammer follow" and "failure to cock the hammer" issues if tweaked to their operational limit in my experience. I can make them reliable and short but $95.00 Labor for AK trigger work isnt something most people are willing to pay for.

Nemesis · Jan 17, 2012

yea i've tinkered with that before...gave up on it for the reasons.

what this is has nothing to do with the internals, or any mods to the FCG or reciever, or anything for that matter.

the function of the disconnector and such is also not impaired what-so-ever.

04RWon · Jan 17, 2012

Looks cool on video except 1 major flaw. Its an ak lol.

I remember that thing having a decent trigger before, so now its gotta be really nice.

Nemesis · Jan 17, 2012

lol...whaaateeevveerr

just got done with the prototype...

working on both the SGL 21 and Saiga 223...in a few days i may have the next prototype done.

Nemesis · Jan 17, 2012

im figuring out with this prototype that the trigger pull can actually be adjusted.

Indiana Jones · Jan 17, 2012

Can't wait to see it

04RWon · Jan 17, 2012

I bet theres alot of cigarette smoke involve in this while electonica plays in the background, am i in the ballpark?

Nemesis · Jan 17, 2012

Second prototype works great. Frankly im shocked that there dies not seem to be that much interest in this. Post if you are interested in this...if there is enough buzz about it i will look into making them for sale.

Some details: it should work on any ak. No modification to the gun. Trigger pull length is adjustable. Very simple to install, only takes about a minute to have it put on and adjusted as desired.

Please understand why i do not want to say more or post pictures lol

Nemesis · Jan 17, 2012

04RWon said:
I bet theres alot of cigarette smoke involve in this while electonica plays in the background, am i in the ballpark?

Ball park...dude youre on the home plate lmao

MightyWarMonger · Jan 18, 2012

patten pending?

Gundahar · Jan 18, 2012

Oh I'm interested--I'm interested and follow all your AK threads. Just not really there yet as a new AK owner. Right now I'm content with the stock arsenal trigger compared to the other major issue I am trying to correct--the sighting system. And one issue at a time is how I roll. (A man's got to know his limitations).

Gundahar

Ab_Normal · Jan 18, 2012

MightyWarMonger said:
patten pending?

Patton's dead. :innocent0

Nemesis · Jan 18, 2012

I will be looking into putting a pat. on it. Whats wrong with your sights gundahr?

clandestine · Jan 18, 2012

Nemesis said:
I will be looking into putting a pat. on it. Whats wrong with your sights gundahr?

Your better off just making it and dealing with competition if someone copies you. Getting an item Patented is EXPENSIVE and unless your going to make a heck of alot of money making an item its not worth it.

If you have a neat device roll out hard and fast and you will have little competition unless someone starts making a similar product in china for alot cheaper (this takes a substancial amount of time). Even the big companies cant outmatch this reality, it is what it is.

I know many people who have invented gun related things, many are sold in Brownells and none are rich from it. Only one guy has a patent and his best friend/neighbor is his Patent Attorney.

Forest · Jan 18, 2012

Is it like the Red Star Arms adjustable trigger?

04RWon · Jan 18, 2012

Im an ar guy and i would back justin's work. Damn ruskie seems to know what hes doing

BenL · Jan 18, 2012

Match trigger on an AK? That should really close up your groups. You'll probably be under 12" at 50 yards with a match trigger.

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Seriously, good luck on your mod. Before you go in to full production, I'd put a few thousand rounds through one, just to be sure it's reliable and safe.

Gundahar · Jan 18, 2012

I guess nothing was wrong with my sights, it was more my eyesight. Like I said in previous post, my plans on sticking with the stock leaf sight didn't work out--blurring was just too great.

I put on a Texas Weapon System Dogleg II, and their peep sight. So far its rocking for me--but I don't think I can declare victory just yet. Plus there is the question of an optic. Coming from handgun shooting, the lack of feedback with the rifle tremendously bothers me. Was the shot left? high? off the target? Can't really tell with irons at any kind of range.

Its like playing darts and they tell you the score after the match--not fun.

Either I get some kind of spotting scope and check periodically, or I mount an optic, ideally with minor magnification, like a 1x-4x Leo or something. I'm stuck at deciding what I want to do at this step--both ways cost more than pocket change, even if I decide to just keep with irons for some time.

Your fix I would put under fine tuning, and like I said--I'm just not there yet, although I greatly appreciate the information on these forums, from you and other (AK) shooters.

Gundahar.

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