Possible Straw Man Purchase Prevented
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omegared24
Ultimate Member
That's true.
I think the OP should call the local news stations so they can run a story on straw purchase prevention. The OP can offer best practices.
omegared24
Ultimate Member
I don't understand what you mean by "virtue signaling" in this particular context.
Virtue signaling is well defined.
I think have a pretty good handle on what the term means. Ironically, just today I explained the term to a co-worker, and I'm pretty sure he got it.
What I'm trying to understand is what parts of this thread you see as virtue signaling?
omegared24
Ultimate Member
I think have a pretty good handle on what the term means. Ironically, just today I explained the term to a co-worker, and I'm pretty sure he got it.
What I'm trying to understand is what parts of this thread you see as virtue signaling?
I'd call that coworker and tell him you don't know what it is.
Well...then can you explain it to me so I can try to set him straight too?
danb
dont be a dumbass
You are virtue signalling your lack of virtue signalling. Or is that unvirtue signalling?
omegared24
Ultimate Member
Yeah...I'll avoid feeding the trolls for now. Thanks for playing
omegared24
Ultimate Member
I believe it's the second one. That hasn't been defined yet so I can't comment for sure.
Good discussion.
We should try again sometime 
Can anyone else help me understand what he meant?
Good discussion.
Lol please dont. Yes I know sarcasm...
As time goes by, this board continues to argue more and more with each other. Its not even winter yet(off season)
OP decided not to sell, doesnt matter his reason. Now we are inferring there is more the story, like any of us on this board have a clue wtf really happened? Maybe OP believes in aliens and potential buyer didnt?
“Virtue signalling is the conspicuous expression of moral values”. Acting on intuition implies the absence of subjective evidence which is not an expression of moral values, it is an simple expression of risk. What it does not imply is that I am for UBCs or anything else, it’s a simple response to environment and circumstance.
The statement that folks here are “virtue signaling” strong 2a and anti UBC moral expressions and then supporting walking away from a sale based on intuition is some how a violation of their morals is incorrect . FTF sellers have no obligation to sell firearms to anyone regardless if they meet the requirement or not, all it takes is a concern. In fact, the decision to do so reflects strong support for responsible gun ownership under the 2A. On the other hand, you can do whatever you feel is right when selling FTF...
The statement that folks here are “virtue signaling” strong 2a and anti UBC moral expressions and then supporting walking away from a sale based on intuition is some how a violation of their morals is incorrect . FTF sellers have no obligation to sell firearms to anyone regardless if they meet the requirement or not, all it takes is a concern. In fact, the decision to do so reflects strong support for responsible gun ownership under the 2A. On the other hand, you can do whatever you feel is right when selling FTF...
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I think, overall, this thread has been productive. Interesting (albeit sometimes slightly barbed) points on either side. I know it has got me thinking more about how such a FTF transfer would be handled. (I'd never do it though. Selling one of my guns?!? My guns?! That's just...no. Hell no.
).You are absolutely correct that we don't have a clue what really happened, and that makes it even harder (and more speculative) to try to figure out how we each would have done it better.
I still don't know what it has to do with virtue signaling though.
(at least it hasn't gone down the love/hate the police road...yet
)Being pissed, and then choosing to kick the car vs. explaining the situation is the difference. Someone who would kick a car out of anger over such things is not demonstrating good judgement.. Of course, we only have one side of the story..
I'm not sure the "other side" of the story matter much, once you decide to either damage property or lay hands on someone.....all bets are off.
I can't think of a situation where I'd KICK someone's car unless myself or a family member was in immediate danger.
Certainly not because someone chose to not sell me a firearm....
I can't think of a situation where I'd KICK someone's car unless myself or a family member was in immediate danger.
Certainly not because someone chose to not sell me a firearm....
Rhetorical question: if the OP made the sale and the next day camera crews showed up at the OPs house with the Bloomberg stooges in tow to accuse the OP of making a straw man sale, how many here would be saying he made the wrong decision?
ericoak
don't drop Aboma on me
Isn’t it only a straw purchase if it is from an FFL?
ralph.mclean
GOC (Grumpy Old Cop)
Sell it on GB, and ship it to an FFL of his choice only after receiving payment. Then you are covered, assuming that his FFL will accept a shipment from a Non-FFL. A majority will do it if they get a copy of your ID.
ralph.mclean
GOC (Grumpy Old Cop)
I've only gotten rid of TWO guns my entire life.
Gave an old Charter Arms .38 revolver to my nephew, so that he could practice his marksmanship to get his security guard license. It was promptly stolen, lock-box and all. Probably by one of his idiot roommates. I should have known better... That was 20 years ago.
Traded a S&W Shield 9mm for a Glock 26 Gen.4. Good deal for both me and my buddy. He didn't like the Glock, and the Shield had been supplanted as my off-duty EDC by a Sig P365. So now when I retire, I'll have a gun to use all the extra Glock mags I bought to go with my duty gun, and he has an EDC that he loves, with 4 extra mags.......
Gave an old Charter Arms .38 revolver to my nephew, so that he could practice his marksmanship to get his security guard license. It was promptly stolen, lock-box and all. Probably by one of his idiot roommates. I should have known better... That was 20 years ago.
Traded a S&W Shield 9mm for a Glock 26 Gen.4. Good deal for both me and my buddy. He didn't like the Glock, and the Shield had been supplanted as my off-duty EDC by a Sig P365. So now when I retire, I'll have a gun to use all the extra Glock mags I bought to go with my duty gun, and he has an EDC that he loves, with 4 extra mags.......
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