HB0004 Rifles and Shotguns - Secondary Transactions

Bertfish · Mar 18, 2020

NewTwo said:
I was THERE to testify against both of these bills, that's why I KNOW what's in them. I'm calling out you guys who clearly have no idea what's in the bill and wail on about things that many of us worked hard to ensure were EXEMPTED from these bills.

Of course I'm mad that the bills got passed, but educate yourself so you know what it actually covers and what it does not. You only look like a fool otherwise.

Get off your soap box. Many of us know exactly what has been inflicted on us.

rseymorejr · Mar 18, 2020

NewTwo said:
I was THERE to testify against both of these bills, that's why I KNOW what's in them. I'm calling out you guys who clearly have no idea what's in the bill and wail on about things that many of us worked hard to ensure were EXEMPTED from these bills.

Of course I'm mad that the bills got passed, but educate yourself so you know what it actually covers and what it does not. You only look like a fool otherwise.

OK, how about the Reader's Digest version, so we can see what's not so bad

Bertfish · Mar 18, 2020

rseymorejr said:
OK, how about the Reader's Digest version, so we can see what's not so bad

"It's just the tip"

PowPow · Mar 18, 2020

NewTwo said:
I was THERE to testify against both of these bills, that's why I KNOW what's in them. I'm calling out you guys who clearly have no idea what's in the bill and wail on about things that many of us worked hard to ensure were EXEMPTED from these bills.

I know you're not meaning to say that they fixed it up the way you wanted. But, that's the way it sounds. Thanks for testifying. I was there too. I would have preferred no bills.

Not_an_outlaw · Mar 18, 2020

NewTwo said:
I was THERE to testify against both of these bills, that's why I KNOW what's in them. I'm calling out you guys who clearly have no idea what's in the bill and wail on about things that many of us worked hard to ensure were EXEMPTED from these bills.

Of course I'm mad that the bills got passed, but educate yourself so you know what it actually covers and what it does not. You only look like a fool otherwise.

Easy hoss. Caution on who you call fear mongering. We all know what is down the road.

knovotny · Mar 18, 2020

I'm super annoyed that in-laws were not included as family. That one affects me. Guess I'll buy from my husband who will buy from his dad.

I mean, we all know this whole thing is a shit sandwich, but I get what NewTwo is saying as well. We do need to be clear on what this does and doesn't do. The ridiculous things I am seeing on the book of faces about this is insane and blatantly wrong. We need to be the ones who know what it is and isn't. We also need to not take out our frustrations about this on each other. We are not the enemy.

PowPow · Mar 18, 2020

knovotny said:
I'm super annoyed that in-laws were not included as family. That one affects me. Guess I'll borrow from my husband who will borrow from his dad.

Nothing in HB4/SB208 as sent to the Governor would prevent you from borrowing from your in-laws after Oct 1. Buying, on the other hand...yeah. Not gonna be able to without a background check.

smkranz · Mar 18, 2020

knovotny said:
We also need to not take out our frustrations about this on each other. We are not the enemy.

Amen!

Allen65 · Mar 18, 2020

PowPow said:
Nothing in HB4/SB208 as sent to the Governor would prevent you from borrowing from your in-laws after Oct 1. Buying, on the other hand...yeah. Not gonna be able to without a background check.

Or a C&R. It's $30 well spent. It's already saved me more than that getting the Dealer Discount from Brownells with it, and now it's a way of giving the MGA a middle finger, too.

The downside to having a C&R is the constant temptation to buy more stuff wherever I roam.

knovotny · Mar 18, 2020

PowPow said:
Nothing in HB4/SB208 as sent to the Governor would prevent you from borrowing from your in-laws after Oct 1. Buying, on the other hand...yeah. Not gonna be able to without a background check.

I meant for sales. But yea, I see I wrote borrow. Oops. Freudian slip, with all the borrow talk.

PowPow · Mar 18, 2020

knovotny said:
I meant for sales. But yea, I see I wrote borrow. Oops. Freudian slip, with all the borrow talk.

So yeah, you can have your hubby buy it. Then you can "buy it" from him. :-)

PowPow · Mar 18, 2020

We definitely would not want him doing a straw purchase for you. lol

Not_an_outlaw · Mar 18, 2020

knovotny said:
We also need to not take out our frustrations about this on each other. We are not the enemy.

Well, unless it's (deleted). He supports the bill.

Reason for edit. Removed Fabs, replaced with "deleted."

PowPow · Mar 18, 2020

Not_an_outlaw said:
Well, unless it's XXXX. He supports the bill.

NOOOOOOO. We dare not speak its name in this thread. lol

knovotny · Mar 18, 2020

Not_an_outlaw said:
Well, unless it's (deleted). He supports the bill.

Cringey, how could anyone support this BS?

lazarus · Mar 18, 2020

fidelity said:
So if during an epidemic, and gun shops are closed, and first responders are limiting what calls they can respond to (see Philly), and your neighbor needs to borrow shotgun to take to their shop providing essential services or goods, this Atterbeary law is keeping us safer.

Only if they don’t give you money. The senate amendments removed the loan ban. You can still loan a long gun. Your neighbor just can’t buy it from you.

knovotny · Mar 18, 2020

And you can still loan a handgun.

PowPow · Mar 18, 2020

knovotny said:
And you can still loan a handgun.

Yes.

fidelity · Mar 18, 2020

lazarus said:
Only if they don’t give you money. The senate amendments removed the loan ban. You can still loan a long gun. Your neighbor just can’t buy it from you.

Thank you for this clarification. Have been busy and can't keep up.

PowPow · Mar 18, 2020

lazarus said:
Only if they don’t give you money. The senate amendments removed the loan ban. You can still loan a long gun. Your neighbor just can’t buy it from you.

His neighbor could still buy it from him, but the transaction (if post Oct 1) would need to take place elsewhere with a background check to be compliant with the law.

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