Buckmark Not Feeding From Magazine

TylerFirearms · Jan 9, 2014

I have a pre-2000 Buckmark that has problems feeding the second and subsequent rounds from the magazine. The first round always loads fine. Everything else works perfectly, but it won't feed right. I tried crimping the top of the magazines a little, and that helped, but it still doesn't feed through an entire magazine. The rounds sometimes get jammed against the edge of the chamber, and other times the slide slams into the side of the round and it never leaves the magazine.

Any suggestions? And I'm not looking for "buy a MK III"...LOL

Viper-Snipe · Jan 9, 2014

Suggest you post this in the Rimfire Central site
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=17

V-S

TylerFirearms · Jan 11, 2014

Thanks for the info. I'll give that a try.

lee2 · Jan 12, 2014

Try cci mini mags if you can find them.

clandestine · Jan 12, 2014

Im a gunsmith. IMO you should buy Ruger MK3.

Mooseman · Jan 12, 2014

clandestine said:
Im a gunsmith. IMO you should buy Ruger MK3.

Why do you recommend a Mark III over a I or II? I am curious. I prefer shooting my II over my III.

clandestine · Jan 12, 2014

Mooseman said:
Why do you recommend a Mark III over a I or II? I am curious. I prefer shooting my II over my III.

I just mentioned the MK3 since they no longer make the I or II. I also prefer the MK3 Magazine Release.

Mooseman · Jan 12, 2014

clandestine said:
I just mentioned the MK3 since they no longer make the I or II. I also prefer the MK3 Magazine Release.

Thanks, I was just hoping it was the current manufacturing and personal preference. I grew up shooting a Mark I so I am used to the mag release. I also do not like the magazine disconnect in the Mark III.

photoracer · Jan 13, 2014

Sorry, but I would buy another Buckmark before I buy any Rugers.
You will find me on RFC also. The Mk 1/2 mag release makes it useless in action shooting. The 22/45 can be a b***h because the mags don't do in at the same angle as the grip. That leaves the Mk III as about the only Ruger useable in action shooting that does not have a built in handicap. Took them till the new Lite model to finally make a Ruger that is as light as a Buckmark.
On the BM mags the feed lip openning needs to be tapered slightly meaning they are spred more at the back than at the front of the mag. If I could get a look at I could probebly fix it in 15 minutes. All of my Buckmark raceguns were built from early 90's standard frame field/target models with the slabside barrels.

BRONZ · Jan 13, 2014

The magazine is the weakest point of every firearm.

Replace the spring and try that or just replace the magazine.

TylerFirearms · Jan 13, 2014

photoracer said:
Sorry, but I would buy another Buckmark before I buy any Rugers.
You will find me on RFC also. The Mk 1/2 mag release makes it useless in action shooting. The 22/45 can be a b***h because the mags don't do in at the same angle as the grip. That leaves the Mk III as about the only Ruger useable in action shooting that does not have a built in handicap. Took them till the new Lite model to finally make a Ruger that is as light as a Buckmark.
On the BM mags the feed lip openning needs to be tapered slightly meaning they are spred more at the back than at the front of the mag. If I could get a look at I could probebly fix it in 15 minutes. All of my Buckmark raceguns were built from early 90's standard frame field/target models with the slabside barrels.

I did have a friend take a look and he crimped the top of the magazine a little and that made a huge difference, but it's still not feeding right. I took it apart, cleaned the entire gun, and found the follower was broke and some of the pins were a little chewed up from someone else taking it apart. I'm waiting on parts from Brownells now to replace them and the follower. When I get the parts I'll test it again and post a follow up report.

Magnumite · Jan 13, 2014

"Sorry, but I would buy another Buckmark before I buy any Rugers.
You will find me on RFC also. The Mk 1/2 mag release makes it useless in action shooting. The 22/45 can be a b***h because the mags don't do in at the same angle as the grip. That leaves the Mk III as about the only Ruger useable in action shooting that does not have a built in handicap. Took them till the new Lite model to finally make a Ruger that is as light as a Buckmark.
On the BM mags the feed lip openning needs to be tapered slightly meaning they are spred more at the back than at the front of the mag. If I could get a look at I could probebly fix it in 15 minutes. All of my Buckmark raceguns were built from early 90's standard frame field/target models with the slabside barrels. "

Getting a 22 conversion right on a 1911 frame works well, and you can get 15 round mags for the Ciener and copies. Of course, you'll need to do the out of state thing for the 15 rounder.

Moon · Jan 13, 2014

TylerFirearms said:
I have a pre-2000 Buckmark that has problems feeding the second and subsequent rounds from the magazine. The first round always loads fine. Everything else works perfectly, but it won't feed right. I tried crimping the top of the magazines a little, and that helped, but it still doesn't feed through an entire magazine. The rounds sometimes get jammed against the edge of the chamber, and other times the slide slams into the side of the round and it never leaves the magazine.

Any suggestions? And I'm not looking for "buy a MK III"...LOL

Have you tried different ammo?

I have seen 22 Long fired through a 22 and it behaved like that. 22 Long is not the same as 22 Long Rifle.

Pinecone · Jan 14, 2014

TylerFirearms said:
and found the follower was broke

Yeah, this will cause feeding issues.

TylerFirearms · Jan 14, 2014

I've tried a few different types of ammo, but certainly not everything. All the repairs are done and it function checks just fine. I'll take it to the range in the next couple of days and report back as to what happens.

Melnic · Jan 14, 2014

Does it look like this?
This was with minimags when I got mine, but after about 200-300 rounds, problem went away and it working fine with nearly everything I used and have put 1000+ rounds through it and not cleaned it yet. Only time I have trouble is with Winchester 333 recently. Gonna try minimags again next before deciding to clean it.

Have you tried another magazine?

TylerFirearms · Jan 14, 2014

When it was happening, the round would release from the magazine early and not allow the bullet to enter the chamber. The round would get jammed against the edge of the chamber. A friend helped to crimp the top of the magazines a little, which helped greatly, but the rounds would occasionally jam.

Your photo shows the round was grabbed by the extractor before it jammed. Mine wouldn't get that far. The slide would start to push the round out of the magazine and the magazine would release it too early.

I only have the two factory mags it came with - it was used when I bought it. After the repairs and a thorough cleaning, its feeding perfectly without firing it. The bullet enters the chamber and pops right up out of the magazine. I'll get to the range in the next day or two and post an update.

My only issue now is the slide feels a lot more difficult to pull back once the hammer has been released. It slides easily if the hammer is cocked. I don't remember it being that difficult before, but I didn't use it much so I might be imagining things. I'm concerned that there might not be enough blowback pressure to properly cycle it. I guess the range will give me my answer.

SuperMag · Jan 15, 2014

That is perfectly normal. Sounds like your little Buckmark is back on the highway!

TylerFirearms · Jan 15, 2014

SuperMag said:
That is perfectly normal. Sounds like your little Buckmark is back on the highway!

Actually, she's still not working all that well. I took it to the range and loaded it up. Still jamming. I fiddled with the magazines a little and still the same problem. I thought, "What the hell. Maybe Freestate has a Buckmark gunsmith available." I asked, and they did. His name is Bob. Outstanding guy!!

First, I bought a new magazine from them and it jammed on every round. Bob seemed to take it personally that the new magazine was worse than the old ones, so he took into the "back room" and onto the range. After firing some known working ammo, he says to replace the recoil spring. So, it's back to Brownells I go.

Here is a photo taken today of the round getting stuck.

photoracer · Jan 16, 2014

Sometimes on the BM mags the rounds will not feed into the mag cleanly and it will seem like they are dragging on the inside of the mag. Usually the sign of a magazine problem. Because I have lots of them I just drop those in a box to work on later. Happened to 1 or 2 out of 15. To competition shooters mags are a disposable item. Once it has had a problem that can't be fixed by the rare cleaning they may as well go in the trash because you will never trust that one again. You will see shooters that have numbers or identifiers on their mags. This is so if one has a problem in a match you can toss it back in your range bag (or trash as some do).

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