DC Permit Application Warning

Schipperke · Feb 9, 2018

fscwi said:
I called yesterday to check the status of my permit, and was told its in the "final stage" and I should get a decision next week. Much more polite on the other end of the line this call, I hope that's a good sign. My application date was Oct. 11.

Hang tight, they'll send a letter. When you go to pick up, I don't suggest playing parking meter roulette with anything less than an one hour, maybe even more. Took me one hour, and I was only customer. Another customer arrived 30 minutes later and was not even acknowledged until finished with me. If you waste some $$ on too much meter time, consider it a blessing.

Shazam · Feb 9, 2018

fscwi said:
I called yesterday to check the status of my permit, and was told its in the "final stage" and I should get a decision next week. Much more polite on the other end of the line this call, I hope that's a good sign. My application date was Oct. 11.

When I phoned them last week they said to expect a letter by the end of this week. Now they say next week.

I'm starting to see a pattern here.

Klunatic · Feb 9, 2018

jbrown50 said:
I called Ofc. King's number last Thursday and was transferred over to where Lt. Hall was. I told Lt. Hall that I have my license and was trying to convince a few other persons to apply. I just called to get a clarification on something. I informed him of what Ofc. King told me, that they wouldn't accept any training that's more than 2 years old and that included my DD214. Lt. Hall then said that applicants can submit the training anyway and let them decide on whether or not to accept it.

That's code for "we will deny everything you submit that is not expressly spelled out by the law. So go ahead and waste your time sending in a request for a waiver, it will only delay you getting an approved permit."

swinokur · Feb 9, 2018

That’s my read as well. Ambiguity in the statute and regs helps them, not us. I got out of the Army in 1971. I fully expect to be denied based on the 2 year requirement on training, even though I don’t think that was the legislative intent.

fscwi · Feb 18, 2018

fscwi said:
I called yesterday to check the status of my permit, and was told its in the "final stage" and I should get a decision next week. Much more polite on the other end of the line this call, I hope that's a good sign. My application date was Oct. 11.

Well next week came and went with no contact from DC, the wait continues.

Kaffakid · Feb 19, 2018

11/1/17 - Application submitted.

2/12/18 - preliminary approval letter received. Cited that my 16 hours of classroom and 2 hours of range time weren’t sufficient and needed to be completed with a DC certified instructor. Enclosed a list of about 20 instructors I could call.

2/15/18 - Called and spoke with “Senior Officer King”. He again told me my training was “not sufficient” with no justification therefor. I pushed back and told me he’d call me back. Called me back and said he’d reviewed my file and my 16 hour classroom was fine (it was fine for UT, FL, VA, and MD, mind you). Said I’d need to furnish proof of 2 hours of range time firing 50 rounds. I asked which form I’d need to submit and he told me to contact Leon Spears (which is hilarious because SPO King, as a cop, should be able to tell me that information). I told him I have the range qual form I supplied to MSP for my W&C application. He told me to send it by email and he’d “take a look.”

2/15/18 - SPO King emailed me back saying I was “good to go” and my CCW would be mailed to me. I replied asking when that would be, being as how I was at the 115 day mark. Emailed me back without answering the question saying “Your license will be mailed to you.”

Gotta love the MPD.

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John from MD · Feb 19, 2018

Sounds like SPO King thinks he is a king. He should be charged with obstruction. :sad20:

Schipperke · Feb 19, 2018

Reads like DC residents are being nudged to the front of the queue.

press1280 · Feb 28, 2018

jbrown50 said:
I called Ofc. King's number last Thursday and was transferred over to where Lt. Hall was. I told Lt. Hall that I have my license and was trying to convince a few other persons to apply. I just called to get a clarification on something. I informed him of what Ofc. King told me, that they wouldn't accept any training that's more than 2 years old and that included my DD214. Lt. Hall then said that applicants can submit the training anyway and let them decide on whether or not to accept it.

If they decline and say your training isn't good enough, can you cancel and get your money back?

swinokur · Feb 28, 2018

Now that’s funny right there

press1280 · Feb 28, 2018

swinokur said:
Now that’s funny right there

Suprisingly I managed to get my application fee back from NJ when I got denied for lack of justifiable need.

swinokur · Feb 28, 2018

I’m one of those awaiting approval on a DD214 that I received in 1971. Based on what I’ve read here I expect a denial despite the fact that the DC regs state that a DD 214 is an acceptable form of training with no time limit mentioned.

I am not optimistic

press1280 · Feb 28, 2018

swinokur said:
I’m one of those awaiting approval on a DD214 that I received in 1971. Based on what I’ve read here I expect a denial despite the fact that the DC regs state that a DD 214 is an acceptable form of training with no time limit mentioned.

I am not optimistic

How long have you been waiting

swinokur · Feb 28, 2018

Coming up on 120 days on the 30th

swinokur · Feb 28, 2018

There is no 30th this month so let’s just say 120 as of today

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press1280 · Feb 28, 2018

swinokur said:
Coming up on 120 days on the 30th

Guess they're having a debate on your DD214?

swinokur · Feb 28, 2018

I stopped worrying about it. Either it gets approved or not. I assume my 8 other permits are also irrelevant

Engine4 · Mar 2, 2018

Submitted my app last November. Got a letter yesterday saying I was preliminarily approved but needed to submit proof of 2 hrs of range training. It wasn't checked off on my certificate, I guess the instructor thought it was included in the 16 hr training requirement. Called this morning & was told that does need to be checked on the form, & so I mailed a copy with the box checked off per their instructions.

CZ Peasy · Mar 2, 2018

Engine4 said:
Submitted my app last November.

Can you be more specific on the date?

Engine4 · Mar 3, 2018

CZ Peasy said:
Can you be more specific on the date?

13th

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