Need XM177 Upper Build

johnkn · Apr 2, 2021

I’m striking out with 2 vendors, apparently they have plenty of business and don’t need/want mine.

I’m looking for a trusted builder who can provide a high-quality, complete, vintage CAR-15 XM177 HBAR upper build. It would have the 11.5” HBAR barrel with the correct PW flash hider, grenade ring, tear drop assist, triangular Handguard (round would work), etc. , etc.

??

Thank you

jollymon · Apr 2, 2021

Try Tonys Custom he used to be a regular at the Dulles show , That's were I got all my part for my 177 build www.tonyscustomsllc.com

johnkn · Apr 2, 2021

Tony has not responded this week....he is 1 of the 2 I contacted....

BUFF7MM · Apr 2, 2021

Avoid this place like the plague.

https://www.tntesales.com/
I had some not so good dealings with this guy awhile back.

johnkn · Apr 2, 2021

Buff7mm said:
Avoid this place like the plague.

https://www.tntesales.com/
I had some not so good dealings with this guy awhile back.

He gave the some BS rude runaround in 5 emails over the last 2 days. I too am done with them.

Surely there is someone other than TNTS and Tony’s who can build this vintage upper.....

Thanks

4g64loser · Apr 2, 2021

Talk to Brian at south Carroll sporting goods. He's an ip here and he does ar work. Not sure if he does vintage repro but worth a shot. Great guy.

wbw2123 · Apr 2, 2021

https://retroarmsworks.com/

Or build one yourself. I'm sure John's backlog is substantial.

ETA- the XM177 did not have the triangular handguards

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=188084&highlight=Xm177

johnkn · Apr 2, 2021

^^ thanks, I’ll try them, I’m aware of the original Handguard, just wanted to be a little different. I suspect the HBAR will require round handguards anyway. Thanks

brianns · Apr 2, 2021

Contact John Thomas and see what he can do. RetroArmsWorks.com. He cut down a 16 barrel for me and welded on a pete's customs faux moderator for me. He was pretty busy lately when I contacted him about some retro stuff. But he knows a lot about the Retro ARs, etc.

Here's 15 minutes of me describing my XM177E2 approach. I hope you can suffer through it LOL. I'm not very dynamic in my speech and the video quality is not as good as my latest.

https://youtu.be/3TYGnD4ButQ

johnkn · Apr 2, 2021

^^ thank you very much. John T. Emailed me and said she can do all the work to built the complete upper (to put on my Colt lower) but I need to provide all the parts minus the moderator and grenade ring. I ... guess... I would be best served trying to find a lightly used complete Colt/etc. HBAR 16” upper and sending to him, as I don’t think I’m up to finding all the piece parts for a complete upper and hope everything is ok and works together. Now where to find one.......thanks.....

brianns · Apr 2, 2021

johnkn said:
^^ thank you very much. John T. Emailed me and said she can do all the work to built the complete upper (to put on my Colt lower) but I need to provide all the parts minus the moderator and grenade ring. I ... guess... I would be best served trying to find a lightly used complete Colt/etc. HBAR 16” upper and sending to him, as I don’t think I’m up to finding all the piece parts for a complete upper and hope everything is ok and works together. Now where to find one.......thanks.....

You would need to send him the muzzle device of your choosing to have him weld it on unless you will do this somewhere else. In MD you need to have a 16 barrel or it must be an SBR or be building a pistol. I don't know how long is too long for a pistol barrel, personally. That's if you don't have a manufacturer's license.

Check out retrorifles.com. They have faux moderators and rings that I think look better than the Tony's replica moderator I used. I think the other parts aren't too hard to find then you can get it all done together. Sure it will be an a la carte price for each service but it gets the job done. I just recently found a 16" HBAR at Midway recently too. If you got the barrel done, you could get it installed around here locally easy enough.

I'm hoping you can find the stuff and get it done. If I were to do it again(or maybe at a later date) I might make a pistol and use the non grenade ring moderator and modify the carbine buttstock to clamp onto a pistol buffer tube like a brace. Then I could have sort of a XM177 with the slick side upper and 10.5" barrel with no weld.

johnkn · Apr 2, 2021

^^. Thanks, John T stated that he would supply the retro moderator and grenade ring, cut, crown and thread a longer barrel for a LOA of 16”. Thanks

brianns · Apr 2, 2021

johnkn said:
^^. Thanks, John T stated that he would supply the retro moderator and grenade ring, cut, crown and thread a longer barrel for a LOA of 16”. Thanks

That sounds great! Good to hear.

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