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That was classic.
They were never turned on regardless. AGC members or gun rights defenders apparently don't rate as people.
How many HPRB meetings has JJ attended in say, the last 18 months?
I'm sure he has witnessed first hand the activists sitting there quietly intimidating the HPRB with their antics.
I'm sure he has witnessed first hand the activists sitting there quietly intimidating the HPRB with their antics.
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Perhaps demanding the HPRB meetings be conducted according to the OMA, stopping the illegal demand of a DL by a ruide, ignorant security officer and insuring compliance with the law makes us activists and intimidators
I wear that label with Patriot pride.
Perhaps the author should have used a better choice of words before relying on the word of others.
I wear that label with Patriot pride.
Perhaps the author should have used a better choice of words before relying on the word of others.
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hodgepodge
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John was semi-effective in the Old School. (Although I'm more likely to trust Norton's understanding.)
Unfortunately, he seems to be of the opinion that if we aren't doing things his way, we're wrong.
Sorry, John. Multiple approaches are necessary. All approaches are necessary.
Unfortunately, he seems to be of the opinion that if we aren't doing things his way, we're wrong.
Sorry, John. Multiple approaches are necessary. All approaches are necessary.
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We stuck a knife in his back?
Did you read what he wrote?
He blames activists for Madaleno’s bill, not MDA or MPGV?
I don’t have the words
Did you read what he wrote?
He blames activists for Madaleno’s bill, not MDA or MPGV?
I don’t have the words
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i did not defend anyone's portrayal of JJ. But to say we stabbed him in the back is plainly inaccurate. to whit..
My beef is with the portrayal of us as bad actors in this.
Clearly we are not
And to say we are having trouble finding other like minded folks is also plainly inaccurate if you read any PP threads here or in other media
My beef is with the portrayal of us as bad actors in this.
Clearly we are not
And to say we are having trouble finding other like minded folks is also plainly inaccurate if you read any PP threads here or in other media
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you said you didn't like what THIS THREAD has shown, so by inference you mean some or all the posts in this thread, not just one person.
By your own admission you have not looked into this, but feel compelled to defend him.
That's your right but clearly the majority here don't agree with you.
Guilty conscience? I am the OP if you bothered to look.
By your own admission you have not looked into this, but feel compelled to defend him.
That's your right but clearly the majority here don't agree with you.
Guilty conscience? I am the OP if you bothered to look.
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So please don't infer that the entire thread is personally critical of John , because it's not. Even though you responded to Stoveman, portions of your response infer others have.
clearly not the case.
clearly not the case.
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You are clearly in the minority, and I offer no defense or criticism of any posts, except my own, but if you want to reply to a specific person, please address it solely to that post and don't infer that anyone else has behaved in a similar fashion. But I do completely understand the motivation behind the post.
JJ's email was a cheap shot, plain and simple. I am offended by his inference that some who attend attempted to intimidate the HPRB by simply quietly attending the meeting, which is open to the public
perhaps he should attend the meetings personally instead of relying on second hand reports from others.
JJ's email was a cheap shot, plain and simple. I am offended by his inference that some who attend attempted to intimidate the HPRB by simply quietly attending the meeting, which is open to the public
perhaps he should attend the meetings personally instead of relying on second hand reports from others.
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Well you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
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JJ listens to no one, that is why he is now building his own importance back up and trying to be relevant again. JJ never attended a HPRB meeting, never supported the "community" by encouraging AGC members to get involved and he recoiled at the thought of cooperating with other orgs. On top of that, he steals the name of another org to begin his own efforts to fund his efforts and steal AGC's email list.
Sorry for spewing the truth, but this dancing around has me sick. If JJ was such a trailblazer, AGC would have grown and have much more influence over the legislature. Now it is half as much of what it used to be.
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