Good Gas Key Stake Job?

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  • grimnar15

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    This is from a Geiselle REBCG. Just not sure if its a good stake job.
     

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    outrider58

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    As long as the staking covers the bevel on the screw, I'd happy with that.
     

    Bountied

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    shouldn't some of the staked material be impacting the screw? It looks like they just moved some metal on the key but not into the screws.
     

    rbird7282

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    Doesn’t look great to me, it only appears to even be touching the screws at one point, possibly two.
    Even then, those don’t look like they’d prevent the screws from loosening.


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    Randy Wood

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    That picture by Bounty is the look I would have expected. The OP stake looks minimal, and maybe insufficient. I'm not an armorer. I defer to the experts.
    I agree (from my layman's perspective). You want the staking to look like the lock screws on old German Mausers, physically preventing any rotation.

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    outrider58

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    I agree (from my layman's perspective). You want the staking to look like the lock screws on old German Mausers, physically preventing any rotation.

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    It isn't supposed to stop rotation in this case. It is to stop a broken screw from banging around inside your gun and doing more damage.
     

    grimnar15

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    Doesn’t look great to me, it only appears to even be touching the screws at one point, possibly two.
    Even then, those don’t look like they’d prevent the screws from loosening.


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    Can they be staked further or is this a return?
     

    Randy Wood

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    It isn't supposed to stop rotation in this case. It is to stop a broken screw from banging around inside your gun and doing more damage.
    From what I've read, staking serves both purposes - preventing broken screws from banging around AND also ensuring that the gas key does not come loose (causing malfunctions).

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    outrider58

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    From what I've read, staking serves both purposes - preventing broken screws from banging around AND also ensuring that the gas key does not come loose (causing malfunctions).

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    I was always led to believe proper torque keeps the screws tight, and over staking can break screws.


    YMMV
     

    grimnar15

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    I was always led to believe proper torque keeps the screws tight, and over staking can break screws.


    YMMV

    I sent images of the staking to Geissele - I hope to hear back from them. I bought the BCG after watching instructor Chad's BCG video on it. Normally these are around $280, so when I was able to get one from Primary Arms for $200 shipped it was within my budget and I purchased it. Now that I have it I am disappointed with their workmanship, if you look closely you can still see grind marks on gas key as well. Not sure if that is normal, but I never have had any workmanship issues with the hand full of SOLGW BCGs I bough for $109 when they were on sale. I will let you all know what Geissele has to say.
     

    grimnar15

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    Below is their response.
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    omegared24

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    It isn't supposed to stop rotation in this case. It is to stop a broken screw from banging around inside your gun and doing more damage.


    This is correct.

    If you're really concerned about rotation, in addition to the reverse torque test, simply take some paint and mark the fastener and gas key. It's a good visual for fasteners when you are maintaining your rifle.
     

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