Longer blades for home defense?

Roneut · Dec 29, 2016

lkenefic said:
Funny you mention the cutlass. That's the blade I was looking at, but a bit beefier in the blade. I'll see if I can find it again. It looked more like a drop point Bowie configuration.

I'd be interested to see what you find. While browsing around I also found the Cold Steel Cutlass Machete which is pretty darn good deal for the money, far better than most hardware store machetes.

I do have to echo what others say about getting training time in with any edged weapon. I used to do JMA and now do HEMA. It's also important to have realistic ideas about why an invader would be in the house, what their motivation is, and how they will act when confronted (if you should even confront). It changes the tactics.

cotman68 · Dec 29, 2016

http://www.zombietools.net/shop/zakasushi/
Should handle any intruder, dead or alive

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lkenefic · Dec 29, 2016

glistam said:
I'd be interested to see what you find. While browsing around I also found the Cold Steel Cutlass Machete which is pretty darn good deal for the money, far better than most hardware store machetes.

I do have to echo what others say about getting training time in with any edged weapon. I used to do JMA and now do HEMA. It's also important to have realistic ideas about why an invader would be in the house, what their motivation is, and how they will act when confronted (if you should even confront). It changes the tactics.

From Darksword:

http://www.darksword-armory.com/medieval-weapon/medieval-swords/the-spartan-sword-1363/

gamer_jim · Dec 29, 2016

I would be afraid of cutting the perp and getting blood everywhere, particularly on me.

What if the perp had a disease that was transmitted by blood? You only need a few hepatitis-c viruses to become infected. What if the splatter got in your eye?
(potential candidate for the out of context thread)

lkenefic · Dec 29, 2016

gamer_jim said:
I would be afraid of cutting the perp and getting blood everywhere, particularly on me.

What if the perp had a disease that was transmitted by blood? You only need a few hepatitis-c viruses to become infected. What if the splatter got in your eye?
(potential candidate for the out of context thread)

There would definitely be blood if you cut someone, or shot someone. If you shoot someone at very close range, you may also get their blood on you. As far as transmission of HCV, HBV, or HIV... they would have to bleed into an open wound. It's very rare , but there are documented instances of HBV transmission via this route.

photoracer · Dec 29, 2016

As someone with a long history of edged weapon work I have to say that inside the house, unless you know a lot about what movements you can effect in close quarters with a particular weapon, then keep the blade length down to 15" or less. Unless you have unusually tall ceilings with no hanging lights or fans and wider than normal corridors. Someone mentioned a bastard sword, also known as the hand and a half sword. The Conan Atlantean sword is a bastard sword. Means it is designed to be used one handed but with a long enough hilt to use 2 in a pinch. But the Conan sword has a trick built in, which Arnold used in the first movie, which is the off hand can also grab the sword above the hilt where the brass guard encases the blade. That enables it to be used effectively as an even shorter blade in close quarters. In close quarters the point is more important than the edge, hence the Roman gladius which worked in close where the barbarian's longer swords they faced could not. Poniards and daggers were designed for close quarters work. Narrow tips, double edged, with a reasonably thick spine at the guard. However a close quarters blade will not likely scare anyone like a katana, unless your perp has some edged weapon experience which is unlikely.
In reality unless you know how to effectively use an edged weapon, and have the will to use it, you are less armed than a novice with a firearm. An edged weapon means you have to get in range of the attacker, which a lot of people can't handle psychologically. So a big scary weapon might work better for the untrained. Maybe.
In martial training of all types we had a saying that breaks down to a formula; Skill + Will = Kill. You have to have both. One or the other alone won't keep you alive.
glistam what you say is the gospel. Know your territory well.

TinCuda · Dec 29, 2016

If you all are really serious...

Why mess around. Zombie X Chainsaw!

http://panaceax.com/shop/precision-tools/zombie-x-chainsaw/

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boothdoc · Dec 29, 2016

This knife looks great

This would be good for close quarters work, not a long blade but good to go.

https://youtu.be/FYh_xnWvRIw

WeaponsCollector · Dec 29, 2016

Remember Redskins player Sean Taylor who was murdered by home invaders, he had a machete for home defense.
I think his guns were taken away or something like that, but still.

lkenefic · Dec 29, 2016

Believe me... I'm not giving up the 45 in deference to a blade. I started this thread to get people's opinions about which blades and steels might work it you don't have a gun, or live in a place that prohibits them.

boothdoc · Dec 29, 2016

I will use my knife as a last resort. Many many many rounds later

baltoed · Dec 29, 2016

Glad no one said * Ain't bringin' a knife to a gun fight * < Groan >

ok sorry had to get it out of me..

Admittedly I know nadda for knives and swords..

While this website has a ton of what I would call pure crap they do
have full tang swords and knives here is the URL to the swords

http://www.budk.com/Full-Tang-Swords-3556

Ed

smokey · Dec 30, 2016

And then there's my favorite option for if they broke in with intentions to harm my family...

gizzard · Dec 30, 2016

cold steel gladius or a large good kukri

thumbert · Dec 30, 2016

Seems like you'd be bringing a knife to a gun fight

joppaj · Dec 30, 2016

smokey0118 said:
And then there's my favorite option for if they broke in with intentions to harm my family...

You're calling The Tick?

reverendbeer · Dec 30, 2016

smokey0118 said:
And then there's my favorite option for if they broke in with intentions to harm my family...

smokey · Dec 30, 2016

joppaj said:
You're calling The Tick?

reverendbeer said:

TinCuda · Dec 30, 2016

joppaj said:
You're calling The Tick?

SSSSSSPPPOOOOOOOONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jimbob2.0 · Dec 30, 2016

smokey0118 said:
This sword nerd seems to think somewhat like me. I don't think slashes would be a very desirable attack in close quarters. In contrast, repeated thrusts allow you to still maintain a very good defense with your non-dominant side, gives you fast recovery, and is more likely to penetrate sufficiently to reach vitals once bones are considered.

Very good point. A good brush machete with a decent carbon blade if you can swing it and kept sharp will cut well, if not its probably going to break some bones (as many medieval swords did best). But one with a little more a point to make short straight thrusts (minds out of gutter) enables more defensive maneuvers.

Fortunately lots of options.

Longer blades for home defense?

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