AR pistol to SBR

ELEMENT94 · Oct 29, 2018

is this OK in MD? How can i do it? I already possess it as a pistol.

dblas · Oct 29, 2018

Start by filling out a BATFE form 1, ensure that is is not shorter than 29" overall, sending in the $200, fingerprints, and waiting 9 months.

Once you get your stamp back, get it engraved and convert it to an SBR.

ELEMENT94 · Oct 29, 2018

Engraved???

rouchna · Oct 29, 2018

ELEMENT94 said:
Engraved???

Yes. Since you are "making" an SBR, you need to have your information or your trust's information engraved on the receiver.

ELEMENT94 · Oct 29, 2018

rouchna said:
Yes. Since you are "making" an SBR, you need to have your information or your trust's information engraved on the receiver.

Thought that was only if the firearm was being sold.

rouchna · Oct 29, 2018

ELEMENT94 said:
I need a trust??

You do not. You can file a Form 1 under a trust or Individual.

dblas · Oct 29, 2018

ELEMENT94 said:
Thought that was only if the firearm was being sold.

BATFE requires your information engraved on any title 2 (Class 3) firearm created on a form 1.

I believe you are thinking of requirements for building an 80% firearm.

5.56blaster · Oct 29, 2018

Put a brace on it. No paperwork, no tax, same thing.

Squaregrouper · Oct 29, 2018

5.56blaster said:
Put a brace on it. No paperwork, no tax, same thing.

And it doesn't require a 29" minimum OAL.
IMO- Since 10/1/2013, SBR's in MD are a waste of time and money.

W2D · Oct 30, 2018

squaregrouper said:
And it doesn't require a 29" minimum OAL.

IMO- Since 10/1/2013, SBR's in MD are a waste of time and money.

This is what I have been suspecting of lately.

What makes a brace different than a stock?

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threegun · Oct 30, 2018

W2D said:
This is what I have been suspecting of lately.

What makes a brace different than a stock?

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Government stupidity.

DutchV · Oct 30, 2018

W2D said:
This is what I have been suspecting of lately.

What makes a brace different than a stock?

It's some vague distinction of a brace having not been designed to be fired from the shoulder.

Try a few and see if they work for you. Pick one and save a ton of cash and hassle.

Hawkeye · Oct 30, 2018

DutchV said:
It's some vague distinction of a brace having not been designed to be fired from the shoulder.

Yup.

And the issue right now is that ALL of the pistol brace stuff is solely at the whim and discretion of the ATF. If they decide tomorrow that all pistol braces are illegal stocks, then they're all illegal stocks. Or you could wind up like the guy in Ohio who got dragged through court because some ATF guy got a bug up his ass and decided to go after him over a "pistol" with a foregrip on it.

Having a stamped SBR exempts you from all of that garbage. Plus, if you e-File your Form one, they're coming back within a few weeks right now instead of the six+ months of paper forms.

Jake4U · Oct 30, 2018

W2D said:
This is what I have been suspecting of lately.

What makes a brace different than a stock?

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It says so on the box when it arrives. Seriously. Also, a brace isn't designed to adjust and generally is constructed differently than a regular stock. That's about the only difference.

Biggfoot44 · Oct 30, 2018

Because the most recent Advisory Letter from ATF says so . Most Recent is the key phrase

DutchV · Oct 30, 2018

Jake4U said:
It says so on the box when it arrives. Seriously. Also, a brace isn't designed to adjust and generally is constructed differently than a regular stock. That's about the only difference.

Times have changed a bit. This one adjusts using a standard carbine buffer tube:

https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sba3/

My first AR pistol had a rubber crutch tip. Now I'm upgrading.

Jake4U · Oct 30, 2018

DutchV said:
Times have changed a bit. This one adjusts using a standard carbine buffer tube:

https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sba3/

My first AR pistol had a rubber crutch tip. Now I'm upgrading.

Dang, that's slick.

W2D · Oct 30, 2018

Jake4U said:
Dang, that's slick.

I just ordered a UDP-9i from Angstadt with the SBA3. They haven’t had any for sale for awhile. Now the long wait.

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jac43k · Oct 31, 2018

That's the one I have on mine. :thumbsup:

DutchV said:
Times have changed a bit. This one adjusts using a standard carbine buffer tube:

https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sba3/

My first AR pistol had a rubber crutch tip. Now I'm upgrading.

dreadpirate · Nov 5, 2018

dblas said:
BATFE requires your information engraved on any title 2 (Class 3) firearm created on a form 1.

I believe you are thinking of requirements for building an 80% firearm.

I thought the same thing; only required if selling.

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