Biggfoot44
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- Aug 2, 2009
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I will point out that PCP does pose major risks to bystanders , and is worthy of strict controls .
I will point out that PCP does pose major risks to bystanders , and is worthy of strict controls .
I do not have the studies to hand but in limited trials MDMA with a therapist has shown a lot of promise as a treatment of treatment resistant PTSD in veterans and rape victims. I have also heard unscientific anecdotes of people trying without a professional and not being able to handle their trauma alone. But it looks good so far.
And there were very limited studies showing LSD being useful in treating some addictions and I have not heard of intense physical dependency developing on it. As a certified not a doctor or pharmacist with no training you should be careful will a family history of mental illness. And I hear that it is very important to have someone babysitting you. But I have never tried the stuff personally and I can't imagine that I ever will.
That's the same as saying you don't believe in diabetes because you don't have it. Just because you can eat donuts, pie and ice cream all day doesn't mean everyone can.
I beleive it is a genetic predisposition, much like diabetes or muscular dystrophy.
No... In the sense, one drinks from a container (glass, bottle, etc), the other is ingested via a gas and the exhale, still a gas, contains the drug. Kinda like cigarettes, pipes etc. So maybe there needs to be special place to use the drug. Public makes it very hard for smokers these days.
I have heard that 97% of scientists believe in Human-Caused Global Warming and that 90% of Americans support Universal Background Checks.
I have no opinions based on experience with persons taking LSD/MDMA.
I have seen a person (woman) completely lose their mind taking shrooms. She was fine a few days later when I next saw her.
I have seen people on heroin have their mind/lives destroyed, and lives around them.
I have seen people hooked on pills (Oxy/Perco/Darvo) and they "get old" fast.
So there still needs to be a law.You can buy cannabis infused tea and teabags in Colorado. It also comes in gummy, brownie, cookie, breath mint forms. No bystanders are injured during ingestion.
Law against exactly what?So there still needs to be a law.
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Regarding what can be used, how it can be used and where.Law against exactly what?
Regarding what can be used, how it can be used and where.
SURE, but people will do what when they want unless there is some consquence heavy enough to prevent them from doing so. Not everyone is considerate of other people.I see.
Or,..... the Government could maybe simply mind their own business.... or spend time worrying about things that people actually care about?
So your saying there is no difference between recreational and medical use? There is no difference between the effects of these drugs?LMAO, I so badly wanted to believe this to be trolling but I've encountered too much mis/disinformation on this topic in just this thread alone, let alone the rest of my time out in the world.
LSD and heroin are nowhere near one another. Since the government relaxed the inane prohibition on studies of LSD / MDMA / Psilocybin (please learn, it's not ecstasy unless you're talking the highly-cut / impure street drug), there are literally dozens of studies proving the success rate of small stage (n=<1,000) trials for treating PTSD (yes, including soldiers) depression, and get this - heroin addiction itself. GASP, DOES THAT MEAN LSD COULD HAVE LEGITIMATE MEDICAL USES CONTRARY TO YOUR PREVIOUSLY HELD BELIEFS?!
Seriously. This thread is just chock-full of uninformed, "reefer-madness"-esque thinking.
It's called Liberty.SURE, but people will do what when they want unless there is some consquence heavy enough to prevent them from doing so. Not everyone is considerate of other people.
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And your liberty ends when you threaten someone else's liberty. That is why we have DUI an DWI laws.It's called Liberty.
Same with alcohol, there should only be "medical" alcohol.
I mean,....how can we be assured people aren't going to consume alcohol for solely recreational purposes and then harm others or their property???
So then it sounds like we agree, as the mere ACT of the consumption of a drug does not meet that standard.And your liberty ends when you threaten someone else's liberty.
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Well if you had been paying attention I have no problem with the recreational use of MJ. Provided certain conditions appy.So then it sounds like we agree, as the mere ACT of the consumption of a drug does not meet that standard.
I was paying attention, I just don't understand the need for "conditions" beyond the laws that are already on the books.Well if you had been paying attention I have no problem with the recreational use of MJ. Provided certain conditions appy.
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Well we would have to change the current law wouldn't we? I want it taxed. If it is smoked I don't to be exposed to it. I want the level of THC controlled. Just because you don't understand the need does necessarily mean there is no need for them. Give people an inch they will take a mile.I was paying attention, I just don't understand the need for "conditions" beyond the laws that are already on the books.
Some folks seem to love new and additional laws, me,... I tend to think there are plenty as is.