ProShooter
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Very interesting stuff!
smokey0118 said:ehhh, why would i write another letter if i have 10 of the same letter sitting at home already?
Not to justify the waiting period, but have you ever written a letter or something, then went to bed, then the next day woke up and said "Damn I was really an ass in this?"
Oh, DC will be hating this amendment
From how I read it, sounds like they are trying to do this like a driver's licence. If you can carry (drive) in that state, it shows you should able to do it as well in any state that is shall issue and be recognized there. (hopefully that made sense)
Sounds good.
If you had a Maryland permit, it would be valid in any state. It just means the bill does not compell Maryland to issue permits.
What is interesting in this for me is what this would mean for New York State. Under current law you cannot even possess a handgun in NYS without a pistol permit, which are not issued to non-residents of the state.
As I understand this bill it would allow me as a VA resident with a permit to carry in NY, a state which currently doesn't even allow me to possess a handgun in.
How would this play out?
Just to clarify, any state that issues permits. I think you're still screwed in the few no-issue states.
Carefully.
Some lucky winners will earn the title of "Test Case".
Nothing in this bill stops onerous carry regulation in a given state. The possibilities for games are limitless. The closest the bill can possibly get is to say that reciprocal permits must be honored at the highest level offered by the state. So unrestricted. If New York or Maryland give out non-restricted permits to retired or off-duty LEOs, judges, politicians or celebrities (ahem...New York City) then visiting permits work at that level, too.
This is a natural limit. NY can ratchet down their laws and make it hard for visitors to carry, but in doing so they will be targeting their own carriers: the cops and the bankers. That might not play well.
Patrick et al
How does this comport to the 14th amendment as far as due process?
How can congress use the 14th amendment to give permits to only some citizens without running afoul of the due process portion? Seems like it can't be split.
Yeah. Chucky Schumer wouldn't have it! God forbid he relinquish HIS permit.Carefully.
Some lucky winners will earn the title of "Test Case".
Nothing in this bill stops onerous carry regulation in a given state. The possibilities for games are limitless. The closest the bill can possibly get is to say that reciprocal permits must be honored at the highest level offered by the state. So unrestricted. If New York or Maryland give out non-restricted permits to retired or off-duty LEOs, judges, politicians or celebrities (ahem...New York City) then visiting permits work at that level, too.
This is a natural limit. NY can ratchet down their laws and make it hard for visitors to carry, but in doing so they will be targeting their own carriers: the cops and the bankers. That might not play well.
SEC. 2. FINDINGS.
The Congress finds the following:
(1) The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States protects the fundamental right of an individual to keep and bear arms, including for purposes of individual self-defense.
(2) The Supreme Court of the United States has recognized this right in the case of District of Columbia v. Heller, and in the case of McDonald v. City of Chicago, has recognized that the right is protected against State infringement by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
(3) The Congress has the power to pass legislation to protect against infringement of all rights protected under the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
(4) The right to bear arms includes the right to carry arms for self-defense and the defense of others.
(5) The Congress has enacted legislation of national scope authorizing the carrying of concealed firearms by qualified active and retired law enforcement officers.
(6) Forty-eight States provide by statute for the issuance to individuals of permits to carry concealed firearms, or allow the carrying of concealed
firearms for lawful purposes without the need for a permit.
(7) The overwhelming majority of individuals who exercise the right to carry firearms in their own States and other States have proven to be law-abiding, and such carrying has been demonstrated to provide crime prevention or crime resistance benefits for the licensees and for others.
(8) The Congress finds that preventing the lawful carrying of firearms by individuals who are traveling outside their home State interferes with the constitutional right of interstate travel, and harms interstate commerce.
(9) Among the purposes of this Act is the protection of the rights, privileges, and immunities guaranteed to a citizen of the United States by the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
(10) The Congress, therefore, should provide for national recognition, in States that issue to their own citizens licenses or permits to carry concealed handguns, of other State permits or licenses to carry concealed handguns.
only guns and money updated his blog post, the text of the bill is there.
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Oh, and I'm sorry for the socialists, but it didn't take 'em 2,200 pages either