Pest Gun Setup

[lazarus]

Oops, stand corrected, CCI Suppressor is 970fps, the semi auto quiets are 835. Here is some data I got using a sound meter app on my phone. I see a lot of variation and inconsistency in std quiet ammo, far less with the slightly higher velocity CCI ammo.

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I too shoot a couple of MKII's, one suppressed 16" (fvsr) and one bull barrel 20" that is still neighborhood quiet with quiet ammo even unsuppressed.

Even in my 10/22, with quiets and my can, the sound of the bullet hitting a tree 20yds away is louder than the gun shot itself being all right there.

Quiets are highly inconsistent on velocity. They group amazingly well for me out of my 10/22 despite that. Both regular quiets and segmented quiets (I would only use the segmented on something ground hog or racoon sized. Neither will penetrate completely through either one, and the segmented will cause a lot more internal damage).

Running over my chrono with quiets I see between 650 and 790fps velocity spread. Most group 700-730fps, but out of a 10 round mag from my 10/22, I'll likely have at least two well under 700fps and at least a couple pretty close to 800fps. The semi-auto quiets aren't any better for consistency, just that their spread is more like 730-880fps (and do cycle my 10/22 95% of the time. I'll get about 1 round in 20 that won't cycle it, and usually they are the ones right near the bottom of that velocity spread). CCI suppressor have a very tight velocity spread. I am generally seeing about 920-990fps.

I've never measured the sound pressure levels, but by my ear, I'd agree. Without a can, from my 10/22, the CCI quiet SA are a little quieter than regular subsonic 22s. The plain quiet 22s are substantially quieter. With a can on, I can't really tell a difference between the SA quiets and regular subs. The CCI quiets regular or segmented are substantially quieter than subsonic or quiet SA through my can. I'd imagine with a bolt gun, that would be even more true.

With my buckmark, the CCI quiets are a lot louder, but still pretty quiet out of the 6" barrel (I don't have a threaded barrel for a suppressed setup). the SA quiets and subsonic are essentially just as loud as each other.

 

[Archeryrob]

I know you are worried about the gun, but work smart, not hard. Get one, or a couple, Duke traps. Chain to a tree or stake good, drop some cat food in it and shoot him in the morning.

 

[lazarus]

I gotta get this sighted in today. I’ve been up since 3:00AM fighting off this raccoon again with a stick.

I fell asleep early on accident and didn’t get the coop locked up. I got awakened by the sound of the birds going crazy and flipped on the flood lights and ran outside with a pole. Found one of the girls limping around dazed and got her back in the coop and checked on the rest. 1 missing.

An hour later I hear all the commotion again and grab my pole and a flashlight and do it all over again. The missing chicken must have been hiding in the trees and the coon flushed it out. I saw his eyes glowing in the corner of the yard and chased it off.

Little f**ker

So just throwing this one out there. Setup a have a heart trap of the appropriate size and stick a can of cat food in there. Open the lid just a little and tie the pull tab of the lid on to the trap with a piece of string. Ideally cover the top and sides of the trap with some sticks, rocks, whatever so the little ****** can't try to stick his paws in there. But it should force him to go into the trap and get stuck.

I don't try to stay up and monitor my coop for racoons. I just lay a trap.

Though I don't let my girls out. Fox or hawks would get them in the day time where I am right at the edge of the woods. We get a couple foxes that come by and check out our chickens at least twice a day each. The only times we let them out we use a big green construction zone 4' fence and stakes to loosely pen the hens in a 100ft circle to slow a fox down and keep the chickens from wandering hither and yon. And its only when my wife or I are going to be outside to monitor. The coop does have a 12x20 and a 12x16 runs attached to it that are completely covered with buried wire. Had racoons get in a couple of times when it wasn't built all that well (my wife threw the runs together when I was busy and I never bothered to check how well she had built them, and she'd left a couple gaps the racoons exploited). I have game camera pictures of 6 or 7 ADULT racoons crawling all over the coop and runs at once from two years ago, the last time we lost any birds.

 

[Slackdaddy]

I went from CCI "quiet, to quiet-semi auto,, and finnally settled on CCI "Suppressor small game"
Hollow Point at 970 FPS,, I got better grouping with these over the CeeBees and Quiets (Marlin 39D)

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[Slackdaddy]

The girls and rooster are locked up tight at night,, never had one taken in 20+ years.
The coop is surrounded by a 5' high fence that is their run. Hawk did nail one about 10 years ago.

 

[Bountied]

Get a trap. I use a have a heart trap. You trap the coon then drown it or shoot it in the head. I don't know why you would want to get up at 3am to chase a coon away with a pole? Use a trap set it with a hot dog or some tuna, catch the bastard and then kill him at your leisure. Make sure if you use a paw trap it is secured to something very sturdy. The one I caught with a paw trap ripped the post I had in the ground and took off with the trap. Sometimes when they are trapped their brethren come to help then you could go and shoot them but I would recommend a semi auto for that task, also unless you get a solid head shot a .22 won't outright kill a normal sized raccoon.

These are what I use.

Duke Dog Proof Racoon Trap

The Duke Dog Proof Racoon Trap is a safe and efficient way to catch your targeted animal. Shop this Duke racoon trap today! SCHEELS

www.scheels.com

Robot or human?

www.walmart.com

 

[[Kev308]]

So just throwing this one out there. Setup a have a heart trap of the appropriate size and stick a can of cat food in there. Open the lid just a little and tie the pull tab of the lid on to the trap with a piece of string. Ideally cover the top and sides of the trap with some sticks, rocks, whatever so the little ****** can't try to stick his paws in there. But it should force him to go into the trap and get stuck.

I don't try to stay up and monitor my coop for racoons. I just lay a trap.

Though I don't let my girls out. Fox or hawks would get them in the day time where I am right at the edge of the woods. We get a couple foxes that come by and check out our chickens at least twice a day each. The only times we let them out we use a big green construction zone 4' fence and stakes to loosely pen the hens in a 100ft circle to slow a fox down and keep the chickens from wandering hither and yon. And its only when my wife or I are going to be outside to monitor. The coop does have a 12x20 and a 12x16 runs attached to it that are completely covered with buried wire. Had racoons get in a couple of times when it wasn't built all that well (my wife threw the runs together when I was busy and I never bothered to check how well she had built them, and she'd left a couple gaps the racoons exploited). I have game camera pictures of 6 or 7 ADULT racoons crawling all over the coop and runs at once from two years ago, the last time we lost any birds.

I bought one of those last time this happened and the food stayed out for a couple weeks then miraculously disappeared and the trigger never went off in the trap. I like your Idea about covering the top and sides. I was thinking about setting a plank inside so the animal can't just step over the pressure plate so easily. Like you said, maybe they never even went inside!

 

[[Kev308]]

Get a trap. I use a have a heart trap. You trap the coon then drown it or shoot it in the head. I don't know why you would want to get up at 3am to chase a coon away with a pole? Use a trap set it with a hot dog or some tuna, catch the bastard and then kill him at your leisure. Make sure if you use a paw trap it is secured to something very sturdy. The one I caught with a paw trap ripped the post I had in the ground and took off with the trap. Sometimes when they are trapped their brethren come to help then you could go and shoot them but I would recommend a semi auto for that task, also unless you get a solid head shot a .22 won't outright kill a normal sized raccoon.

These are what I use.

Duke Dog Proof Racoon Trap

The Duke Dog Proof Racoon Trap is a safe and efficient way to catch your targeted animal. Shop this Duke racoon trap today! SCHEELS

www.scheels.com

Robot or human?

www.walmart.com

I prefer not to have "trial by combat" at 3AM, but years ago a raccoon thrill killed my entire flock and that's what I was trying to prevent.

I appreciate the link to the Duke trap. That looks like a good option.
Thanks @Archeryrob as well.

 

[MeatGrinder]

I strongly suggest that you try the CCI Quiet Segmented. The bullet design is just what you are after.

 

[lazarus]

I bought one of those last time this happened and the food stayed out for a couple weeks then miraculously disappeared and the trigger never went off in the trap. I like your Idea about covering the top and sides. I was thinking about setting a plank inside so the animal can't just step over the pressure plate so easily. Like you said, maybe they never even went inside!

They may not have. Like I said, only open the lid enough it can smell it and tie the tab on the lid to the trap is it can’t remove it. They are crafty as hell.

 

[[Kev308]]

I walk out this morning to get the chickens taken care of and see the gate down on the trap.

 

[John from MD]

SSS

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

My own experience with CCI Quiets is they only caused my buddy the woodchuck to shrug. Then he returned to what he was doing before I hit him square in the chest. Out of a Savage. Maybe 35 meters. Through a can.

Reacquired/reengaged him with regular CCI 22L and he flopped over and was done.

Prior CCI Quiet experience was shooting cans. Maybe 50 meters. No punctures. Just dents.

Im not a fan. Unless you want the Daisy/Red Rider experience

 

[Hibs]

Prior CCI Quiet experience was shooting cans. Maybe 50 meters. No punctures. Just dents.

I call BS... lol...

Or I should ask, what kind of cans we talking? Aluminum soda cans? Or like a thick tin can of condensed milk?

 

[[Kev308]]

My own experience with CCI Quiets is they only caused my buddy the woodchuck to shrug. Then he returned to what he was doing before I hit him square in the chest. Out of a Savage. Maybe 35 meters. Through a can.

Reacquired/reengaged him with regular CCI 22L and he flopped over and was done.

Prior CCI Quiet experience was shooting cans. Maybe 50 meters. No punctures. Just dents.

Im not a fan. Unless you want the Daisy/Red Rider experience

I went with the cci quiet 610 FPS about 5 inches from its head. Sounded like two bricks clapping together.

he dead

 

[John from MD]

Better to shoot him in the ear or behind the head. Slow bullets may not penetrate the skull all the time.

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

I call BS... lol...

Or I should ask, what kind of cans we talking? Aluminum soda cans? Or like a thick tin can of condensed milk?

I think you’re right. Given pause to think about it, it was either CBs or shorts that failed to penetrate…beer can. In my hurry to answer and lack of second cuppa, I erred. Thanks for throwing the BS flag on the play.

I‘ll stand by the groundhog that dint take a dirt nap. I know Doc T said they worked for him in the same situation. Don’t know why the difference. Mine were sent from an FVSR as well. Maybe the mountain groundhogs are just tougher… ;-)

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

I went with the cci quiet 610 FPS about 5 inches from its head. Sounded like two bricks clapping together.

he dead

Five inches? Two thirds (NOT 3%) here would love five inches…of their own.

I‘d certainly not hesitate to use the Quiets for a close dispatch.

 

[[Kev308]]

Better to shoot him in the ear or behind the head. Slow bullets may not penetrate the skull all the time.

Five inches? Two thirds (NOT 3%) here would love five inches…of their own.

I‘d certainly not hesitate to use the Quiets for a close dispatch.

I will do that next time or work on getting the silencer and bumping up to 1050 subsonic.

While it did work, it wasn’t an instant drop. I’m sure it wasn’t instant either when it chewed the heads off my chickens.

Post mortem it looked like his brain hemorrhaged out, but I’m not sure how deep the penetration was.

 

[MeatGrinder]

It warms my heart to see a chicken killing varmint dealt with.
I like the CCI Quiet but I mean the segmented. I wonder if that is key for performance.