SB118 (2023) - Criminal Law – Prohibitions on Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting Firearms

[Bertfish]

Jfc so much fail

I'm a CG civilian

 

[USAF05]

Freakin zoomies, always mucking up a thread with information that can be found in other threads.
You do realize that the bills you mentioned have their own threads?

It's kind of how we do things around here.

AF...always there when you need us.

 

[trickg]

Incorrect.

It falls under the Department of Homeland Security.

Right you are - I guess I didn't realize that it had moved, although it's been there for 20 years. See, I do learn something new every day.

 

[Tebonski]

Gee whiz, no more hunting license revenue, no duck stamps, deer over proliferating, car deer accidents, deer eating residential Howard, Frederick, Montgomery County lawns!

This passes my boys and I won’t buy any hunting or fishing license in Maryland. We will do without.

 

[Mister F]

Incorrect.

14 U.S. Code § 101 - Establishment of Coast Guard

www.law.cornell.edu

USC is USC. So let it be written, so let it be done.



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[jc1240]

Wasn't there a time when USCG was under one department since they mainly engage in S&R and drug law enforcement, but moved temporarily to DoD during war? I could be wrong, but I thought I either read that or saw it in a documentary oh so many years ago.

 

[Objee]

Wasn't there a time when USCG was under one department since they mainly engage in S&R and drug law enforcement, but moved temporarily to DoD during war? I could be wrong, but I thought I either read that or saw it in a documentary oh so many years ago.

Correct, they were at one time under the DoT. During times of war they are transferred to the DoD and become the hard nucleus around which the Navy forms.

 

[Raineman]

The state's selling a wear and carry permit and then making its use illegal amounts to conspiracy and fraud by the state legislature,

In my opinion, this is how you fight this bill.
"Hey MGA, you want this? Fine, scrap every single bit of your permitting scheme because you have just proved it is worthless. You can send my refund check for all my fees, classes, and time to my home address thank you. Oh yeah, after I get my refund check, WWNC"

I'm with Lazarus though. Where does it specify wear and carry permit holders? It doesn't, this is a broad restriction on firearms. Wearing, carrying or transporting. I do not see any carve outs for hunters, only LEO, security and military going to post. Maybe that wasn't their intention, but with the wording, in my non-legal scholar interpretation, it appears that's what they did.

Agreed, but they have now proved just by the submission of this proposed bill that the permitting scheme is complete bullshyt for "safety concerns" and is nothing more than the fraud in the previous quote. They need to understand that the options are 1) Keeping the permit process in place, or 2) getting sued for Fraud.

Gee whiz, no more hunting license revenue, no duck stamps, deer over proliferating, car deer accidents, deer eating residential Howard, Frederick, Montgomery County lawns!

This passes my boys and I won’t buy any hunting or fishing license in Maryland. We will do without.

Yep, they will de-fund an entire State agency and take a big bite out of Federal stamp revenue. But hey, hunters, they aren't coming for your guns.

It just boggles my mind that the stupid just increases annually. Its serious Twilight Zone material.

 

[Bertfish]

Wasn't there a time when USCG was under one department since they mainly engage in S&R and drug law enforcement, but moved temporarily to DoD during war? I could be wrong, but I thought I either read that or saw it in a documentary oh so many years ago.

Navy still technically owns some vessels like the ice breakers.

And yes the Navy has directed CG in times of war

 

[JPG]

Title 14 U.S. Code § 522, 523, and 524 - Law enforcement​

(B) THIS SECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO:
(2) A PERSON WHO HAS RETIRED AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER 2 IN GOOD STANDING FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OF THE UNITED STATES, 3 THE STATE, OR A LOCAL UNIT IN THE STATE; 'm

I'm covered so is every Active Duty Coasty along with Retired Coastys

Wonder what would happen if Sheriff's swore people with W&C licenses as posse?

 

[6-Pack]

So who else is going to ignore this and carry anyway. It's so blatantly unconstitutional that you can pretty much guarantee a court win and payday.

 

[TexDefender]

This is just like the Charles County attempt for ban firearms. They mucked it up so bad, they were making changes every five seconds to get it to pass. That itself would show it was a move to get around Bruen. My understanding is NJ law got struck down, in a sharply worded decision, Judge Renée Marie Bumb of the U.S. District Court of New Jersey concluded that a half-dozen restrictions in the legislation, adopted less than three weeks ago, were “so extensive and burdensome” that they rendered the right to “armed self-defense in public a nullity. It is also my understanding that the law failed in the Historical context as well, as there was no prior history of dictate where legal conceal permit carriers could possess their firearms. It should be up to the firearm carrier to determine where he/she can legally carry-on private property. It should be posted at the entrances of the building just like you have to do for trespassing. My understanding is the state already has a law which states this. It is simply “Feel Good” legislation and a political statement that will have absolutely no impact on deterring crime, creating impossible obstacles for responsible firearm-owning citizens to navigate. Murder is already a law, hold the highest of penalties and in some states, you forfeit your life.

 

[TexDefender]

Incorrect.

It falls under the Department of Homeland Security.

Indeed, it does, and they don't reside in the Pentagon, they are over by Bolling at the "Little" Pentagon with Homeland.

 

[Mark75H]

Correct, they were at one time under the DoT. During times of war they are transferred to the DoD and become the hard nucleus around which the Navy forms.

DoT as in Treasury. Where they ever under Transportation?

 

[MJD438]

DoT as in Treasury. Where they ever under Transportation?

For the entirety of my father's 30-year (1969-1999) career, they were under Dept of Transportation.

Federal Register :: Request Access

 

[Harrys]

And yet it falls under the Department of Transportation, not the DoD.

Homeland Security now

 

[rambling_one]

Wonder what would happen if Sheriff's swore people with W&C licenses as posse?

First I must ask, did the MOCO sheriff testify in the gun communities' favor during past sessions?

 

[Harrys]

Incorrect.

14 U.S. Code § 101 - Establishment of Coast Guard

www.law.cornell.edu

14 U.S. Code Subchapter II - LIFE SAVING AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[Harrys]

(b)The officers of the Coast Guard insofar as they are engaged, pursuant to the authority contained in this section, in enforcing any law of the United States shall:
(1)
be deemed to be acting as agents of the particular executive department or independent establishment charged with the administration of the particular law; and
(2)
be subject to all the rules and regulations promulgated by such department or independent establishment with respect to the enforcement of that law.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Gee whiz, no more hunting license revenue, no duck stamps, deer over proliferating, car deer accidents, deer eating residential Howard, Frederick, Montgomery County lawns!

Muzzleloaders and crossbows will have a spike in sales and popularity .