How did you do on B27 for MSP HGP course of fire

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  • BlackInjun

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    Jun 7, 2013
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    So I am curious how much practice I need in point and shoot. None outside of black
     

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    6-Pack

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    I’ll admit to 22/25 on mine. Not my proudest moment, but passing.

    Kind of felt like high school math class when I got a C, enough to pass, but not that great.
     

    lx1x

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    Apr 19, 2009
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    I’ll admit to 22/25 on mine. Not my proudest moment, but passing.

    Kind of felt like high school math class when I got a C, enough to pass, but not that great.
    Nothing wrong with that . Just to get "qualified"

    The rest is up to the person to get more range/practice time.
     

    BlackInjun

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    Jun 7, 2013
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    How many rounds? How far? How much time?
    Basic Shooting Course For All Other Applicants- Carry Permit
    BASIC PRACTICAL HANDGUN COURSE (BPHC)
    Total Rounds – Twenty-Five (25) SCORING Any round inside TARGET B-27
    Minimum passing score = 70% or touching the black silhouette All magazines
    18 rounds of 25 rounds = 72% is 5 points. Any round in the will be filled with
    Total possible score= 125 pts white or unaccounted for 5 rounds regardless
    Minimum passing score= 90 pts is 0 points of capacity

    3 YARD LINE – 5 ROUNDS – TWO HANDED – POINT SHOULDER
    ROUTINE LOAD 5 rounds and assume the LOW READY POSITION.
    On Command – raise your weapon, fire 1 round in 3 seconds, cover, SCAN,
    finger off the trigger and back to low ready.
    On Command – raise your weapon, fire 1 round in 3 seconds, cover, SCAN,
    finger off the trigger and back to low ready.
    On Command – raise your weapon, fire 1 round in 3 seconds, cover, SCAN,
    finger off the trigger and back to low ready.
    On Command – raise your weapon, fire 1 round in 3 seconds, cover, SCAN,

    5 YARD LINE – 10 ROUNDS – TWO HANDED – POINT SHOULDER ROUTINE LOAD 5 rounds and assume the LOW READY POSITION.
    2 ROUNDS 5 SECONDS - 2 ROUNDS 5 SECONDS 1 ROUND 3 SEC REPEAT 10 ROUNDS TOTAL

    7 YARD LINE – 5 ROUNDS – TWO HANDED – POINT SHOULDER ROUTINE LOAD 5 rounds and assume the LOW READY POSITION.
    2 ROUNDS 5 SECONDS - 2 ROUNDS 5 SECONDS 1 ROUND 3 SEC

    15 YARD LINE – 5 ROUNDS – TWO HANDED – POINT SHOULDER ROUTINE LOAD 5 rounds and assume the LOW READY POSITION.
    1 ROUND 6 SECOND REPEAT 5 TIMES
     
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    Mark75H

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    Students that take my class usually get the opportunity to shoot the qual until they can score 25/25. My worst student (several years ago) shot 18/25. My last group of 8 I had 2 that F'd up 1 shot on admins and one that only shot 21/25. I let the 2 admin goof shooters reshoot for 25/25, the 21/25 shooter was happy with passing.
     

    BlackInjun

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    Jun 7, 2013
    70
    I put them all on the 10 or X ring. The instructor was laughing.
    We had a guy that put all 25 in the head. He's here and he probably recognizes the B27. Instructor used it afterward to demonstrate what happens if you don't practice unholstering and train yourself to grip the handgun the correct way everytime.
     

    Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
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    Answer #1 - Congratulations , you have fulfilled your arbitrary Poll Tax with flying colors . Go forth and enjoy your Fundimental Rights .

    Answer #2 - Assuming you are reasonably fit and healthy , and not in economic circumstances such that an inherited Raven or Rhom is your only option while maintaining roof over your head , food on the table , and clothes on you children's feet .

    Or conversely that you weren't injecting levity into the situation by going for bragging rights by using your two shot derringer weak hand only , behind your back .

    Using the walk > run run approach , and in the context of this COF :

    Tighten up a little on basics , shooting for all rounds within 9 ring , and most in 10 ring . Then branch out into working on first shot hits from the leather ( kydex for y'all ) , and picking up the pace on both drawing , and multiple shots , while maintaining group size , and other drills and COFs .
     

    RoadDawg

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    Dec 6, 2010
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    So I am curious how much practice I need in point and shoot. None outside of black
    Are you saying that is your point shoot target results?

    If yes…
    Not all that bad for a start. Practice will bring the size of the pattern in.

    If it’s using the sights… practice will bring the size of the pattern in.

    Practice practice practice.
     

    IronEye

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    Feb 10, 2018
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    Howard County
    B27 target? You mean like the target specified in the shooting qualification requirements? My renewal class last year used a 1/2 sized B34 for the qualification shoot last year at the specified 3, 5, 7 and 15 yard distances.
     

    BurkeM

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    Jan 8, 2014
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    Baltimore
    So I am curious how much practice I need in point and shoot. None outside of black
    If you can't put 25 out of 25 on the massive target (every round in the black is one point) you probably have some bad habits to overcome.

    MSP considers 25 in the 10 ring to count exactly the same as 25 hits in the shoulders and hips.
     

    JohnnyE

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    Jan 18, 2013
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    MoCo
    If you can't put 25 out of 25 on the massive target (every round in the black is one point) you probably have some bad habits to overcome.

    MSP considers 25 in the 10 ring to count exactly the same as 25 hits in the shoulders and hips.
    Maybe I should as @teratos this question, but what would the height and weight of a live human being be who had a B-27 silhouette?
     

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