Minimum Caliber for Concealed Carry in MD

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  • eruby

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    If this was the same class I was in I think the way he phrased it was that in his class, you had to shoot at least a 9mm (same as 380) on his live fire course for him to qualify you.

    Not sure they ever said the law said you had to carry a large caliber.

    And yes there was a little bit of misinformation from various instructors about some things. Nothing major IMHO. The usual BGOS BS about stopping to pee on the way to the range.

    After all, MD firearms laws are confusing by design.

    But overall I thought it was pretty good myself! A great group of instructors volunteering their time.
    There is no minimum caliber, and it is not up to the instructor's discretion.

    Both are a crock of frosh
     

    Mark75H

    MD Wear&Carry Instructor
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    Sep 25, 2011
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    There is no minimum caliber, and it is not up to the instructor's discretion.

    Both are a crock of frosh
    Actually it is up to the instructor's discretion. Just like most instructors requiring students to bring more than 25 rounds of ammo; under the law, there is no legal grounds to bring more than 25 rounds of ammo. There is also no legal restriction on reloaded ammo, but you would be hard pressed to find an instructor allowing it.
     

    eruby

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    Actually it is up to the instructor's discretion. Just like most instructors requiring students to bring more than 25 rounds of ammo; under the law, there is no legal grounds to bring more than 25 rounds of ammo. There is also no legal restriction on reloaded ammo, but you would be hard pressed to find an instructor allowing it.
    I didn't know that, but it makes the entire process a giant crock

    Sign up for A, but then your instructor says shoot on one foot else, you don't pass.

    Bullhonkery
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
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    Apr 6, 2011
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    My instructor mentioned in our training class that a .380 was the smallest caliber legal to carry in Maryland. Is there actually a rule stating this or is it more of a guideline? I apologize if this has been answered before but I couldn't locate anything using the search function.
    Your instructor is an idiot, there is no minimum caliber by law. Carry whatever you want.
     

    dblas

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    Apr 6, 2011
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    My instructor is a retired police officer so he may be using information based on his previous minimum requirements when carrying off duty. I don't plan to carry anything smaller than .380 but wanted to clarify.
    Let me guess WaS??
     

    thomfantomas

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    Feb 15, 2013
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    I'm going with the kolibri for carry :D is 2mm small enough?
    Kolibri.jpg
     

    ToolAA

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    Jun 17, 2016
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    God's Country
    There's nothing wrong with your .40S&W. More power than a 9mm, more mag capacity than a .45. The worst part is telling your parents that you're...never mind.

    I’ve always viewed the .40 S&W as the “Transition” firearm. It’s better suited for those of us who prefer not to identify as 9mm or .45.


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    dblas

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    Apr 6, 2011
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    No , the W&C does not have a minimum caliber . Nor is their a minimum caliber to carry *

    Perhaps the " Professional * W&C , for private detectives , armed security , etc does , but not the W&C for regular Joe & Josie Public .

    If he was expressing an Opinion and Recommendation , .380 & up would be in line with a large body of thought .

    * The statutes do specify Handgun , so presumably it would need to meet Md's definition of Handgun . ie Propelled by action of an explosive , so air guns would then be out . Muzzleloaders and pre 1899 are also exempted from definition of Handgun . Wether or not the instructor would research the s/n on your SAA , New Service , Lemonsqueezer , or Owl Head is a different question .
    Handgun as defines by the statute:

    (n) Handgun. --
    (1) "Handgun" means a firearm with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.
    (2) "Handgun" includes signal, starter, and blank pistols.
     

    ToolAA

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    Your instructor is an idiot, there is no minimum caliber by law. Carry whatever you want.

    Damn straight. I like to 6 O’clock carry my .223 cal AR-Pistol. Most folks have no I idea I’m carrying. They just think I’m full of $hit.


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    teratos

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    Jan 22, 2009
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    Damn straight. I like to 6 O’clock carry my .223 cal AR-Pistol. Most folks have no I idea I’m carrying. They just think I’m full of $hit.


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    My hero.
     

    Johnny5k

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    In my group for NV carry cert, they said, the only requirement is that you fire the number of shots required. Hit, miss, whatever, just take the shots. The only way to fail was to go up to the line short of ammo. We still had one guy we had to throw a round to at the line.
     

    Biggfoot44

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    Aug 2, 2009
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    I didn't know that, but it makes the entire process a giant crock

    Sign up for A, but then your instructor says shoot on one foot else, you don't pass.

    Bullhonkery

    It could be a good thing , * As long as the Training Providers are upfront about what exactly they are offering and requiring * . Plenty of people are looking for that , will seek it out , and likely pay a premium for the additional content . Market it as something to the effect of " Building Intermediate Pistol Skills , that happens to also grant a W&C Cert " .

    But if ( a particular Instructor ) is not willing to grant the piece of paper to students who meet the State Mandated Standards , but not the higher class standards , advertising as a generic W&C Class is no bueno .
     

    Biggfoot44

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    I’ve always viewed the .40 S&W as the “Transition” firearm. It’s better suited for those of us who prefer not to identify as 9mm or .45.


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    Or , a Solution in search of a Problem
    Further Or , a finely crafted Compromise solution , for a largely non existent Gap .

    But that's just me riffing . If you like your .40 , use your .40 by all means .

    Actually I'm just mainly meh about .40 , as opposed to my outspoken dislike of .380 .
     

    Gcs7th

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    Jan 26, 2012
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    I always tell people the best handgun they have is the one they are comfortable with and can shoot accurately.

    22rds is useless if you can’t put them on target to stop the threat.

    The only way I would carry a 22lr if it was a revolver. I’ve had way too many rimfire cartridges have feed issues, FTF, or jam (stovepipe or stuck in chamber)
     

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