Need Some Suggestions for Optics for 22LR RPR

[Kevmo]

hey guys, so i picked up a RPR in 22LR for my daughter, for now i planned to shoot it between 25 and 100 yards, suppressed with CCI quiets (trying to midigate noise as i'm trying to teach her to shoot)

I was hoping for some suggestions on optics and rings, sub 300 would be ideal I dont need the best, but want "above average"

my research shows the nikon EFR 2-9x, I would like to have more magification than that, but i know the 2-9x are very common.

thanks in advance

 

[Swaim13]

I have an athlon argos on some of my rifles and while slightly more expensive, it will allow you to go beyond 100 with a 22. If you call cameraland NY and tell them you are on Snipershide they will give you a discount and will give you good recommendations on optics.

 

[bronco]

I'm absolutely no expert in this stuff, but 2-9x sounds like enough for 25-100 yards. Would like to see a range report and your feedback when you get some rounds through it with whatever scope you put on. Shoot and enjoy.

 

[Kevmo]

I'm absolutely no expert in this stuff, but 2-9x sounds like enough for 25-100 yards. Would like to see a range report and your feedback when you get some rounds through it with whatever scope you put on. Shoot and enjoy.

i ran some cci quiets with a can through it last night and my goodness.... calling it whisper quiet is an insult.

 

[Catch-10-22]

You can certainly do 25-100 with a 3-9X scope like the Nikon EFR. Heck, with a 20MOA riser you could do out to 200 with 3-9X (though not with CCI Quiets - those things drop like crazy - haven't tried them at 100 yards yet).

The Nikons are good but discontinued, so harder to find and some are concerned with warranty.

If you want another good AO optic with very clear glass and a fine reticle for under $300, I would recommend the Clearidge Ultra RM: https://www.clearidgeoptics.com/ultra-rm-s/1814.htm

I have one that I have used to shoot out to 200 yards on a target-style 10/22 and it is a very nice scope - I would say better than the Nikon or Meuller (which I also own).

Have also been impressed with the Leupold VX-Freedom Rimfire scope. I have a 2-7X but they have a 3-9X. That will also be under $300. The MOA reticle is helpful for longer range shooting but not distracting.

Rings-wise, I really like the Vortex Pro Rings or the Burris Signature Zee Rings. Both are affordable - $50-60. If you need a cantilever mount, can offer other suggestions.

Good luck!

 

[Sundazes]

If you are shooting quiets at 100, the bullet drop is significant over SV ammo. So take that in to consideration when siting in.

 

[Kevmo]

You can certainly do 25-100 with a 3-9X scope like the Nikon EFR. Heck, with a 20MOA riser you could do out to 200 with 3-9X (though not with CCI Quiets - those things drop like crazy - haven't tried them at 100 yards yet).

The Nikons are good but discontinued, so harder to find and some are concerned with warranty.

If you want another good AO optic with very clear glass and a fine reticle for under $300, I would recommend the Clearidge Ultra RM: https://www.clearidgeoptics.com/ultra-rm-s/1814.htm

I have one that I have used to shoot out to 200 yards on a target-style 10/22 and it is a very nice scope - I would say better than the Nikon or Meuller (which I also own).

Have also been impressed with the Leupold VX-Freedom Rimfire scope. I have a 2-7X but they have a 3-9X. That will also be under $300. The MOA reticle is helpful for longer range shooting but not distracting.

Rings-wise, I really like the Vortex Pro Rings or the Burris Signature Zee Rings. Both are affordable - $50-60. If you need a cantilever mount, can offer other suggestions.

Good luck!

are rings better or cantilever in this situation? does it even matter?

If you are shooting quiets at 100, the bullet drop is significant over SV ammo. So take that in to consideration when siting in.

realistically we'll be shooting 25 - 50 yards for a while... unless she is doing VERY well then i'll move her to 75-100 and i'll prob switch to SV or even HV then, with a can it's still not bad noise wise, and hopeuflly by then she wouldn't mind the slight noise.

 

[Roksfr]

https://tractoptics.com/riflescopes/22-fire

 

[Sundazes]

Personally, I would have her get used to wearing ear pro and the noise. 22 is not bad at all with ear pro. I started all my kids as well as hundreds of boy scouts with SV and ear pro....

Also +2 on the Loopy...

 

[Catch-10-22]

are rings better or cantilever in this situation? does it even matter?



realistically we'll be shooting 25 - 50 yards for a while... unless she is doing VERY well then i'll move her to 75-100 and i'll prob switch to SV or even HV then, with a can it's still not bad noise wise, and hopeuflly by then she wouldn't mind the slight noise.

Good question. The issue with the RPR (at least from pictures) and 10/22 is that the included rail section is short and sometimes doesn’t allow you to mount the scope forward enough for proper eye relief with rings. A cantilever mount gives you that extra forward extension, but typically increases your height over bore.

I know the RPR has adjustable everything in the stock, but you don’t want a little girl in super awkward head and body positions - short arms make it hard enough!

Probably does not matter from the bench, where you will start her. Matters more for positional shooting. In that case, go with the lowest rings you can.

 

[Kevmo]

Good question. The issue with the RPR (at least from pictures) and 10/22 is that the included rail section is short and sometimes doesn’t allow you to mount the scope forward enough for proper eye relief with rings. A cantilever mount gives you that extra forward extension, but typically increases your height over bore.

I know the RPR has adjustable everything in the stock, but you don’t want a little girl in super awkward head and body positions - short arms make it hard enough!

Probably does not matter from the bench, where you will start her. Matters more for positional shooting. In that case, go with the lowest rings you can.

Thank you! The optic you suggested looks great! Was curious if you have any suggestions if I wanted a little bit more magnification. Maybe like 12 or 14x

 

[slsc98]

...I dont need the best, but want "above average"...

This may not meet your criteria but, at the moment, it is one helluva deal!

https://www.cdnnsports.com/optics/scopes/bushnell-a17-3-5-10x36mm-matte-rimfire-scope.html

I intend to snag one, just finishing putting some other shopping in my cart, there.

 

[Catch-10-22]

Thank you! The optic you suggested looks great! Was curious if you have any suggestions if I wanted a little bit more magnification. Maybe like 12 or 14x

I think the Bushnell recommended above is a really good deal. I would dig into reviews of it.

The Mueller APV has a pretty good reputation and is certainly in the price range you are looking for. It's an adjustable objective scope (which is helpful for a rimfire scope, since you are more likely to shoot at different ranges than a fixed paralax centerfire scope). They have a range of maximum magnification ranges (14-25X) within that line.

I have a Mueller on my Savage FVSR - I like it. To be honest, it isn't the brightest glass, particularly at higher magnifications. I think you would get better glass with Leupold or Clearidge (and I am not talking ED or HD glass which gets you into other price categories). But it works. Again, dig into some reviews on Rimfire Central.

Clearidge does have a higher magnification scope, but it's a bit above your price range.

The Vortex Crossfire II would be another option for a higher magnification adjustable objective scope - about a hundred bucks more than the Mueller. I don't have any experience with it though - maybe others do.

One thing to think about is whether you need the extra magnification and will use it. Between 25 and 100 yards, it won't really be needed. You will definitely see holes at 25 at 4-9X - I guess at higher mag you could see them at 100 yards, depending. And getting target feedback like that can be helpful for new shooters (and coaches!).

But consider some disadvantages that come with higher magnification: more jitter, smaller eye box/more sensitive eye relief, and darker image (particularly at this end of the market). And that can be frustrating for someone starting out - we tend to dial them back at Appleseed. But shooting from the bench, these disadvantages are minimized.

 

[Pinecone]

I put a Midway BSA (not made by BSA) Tactical 4 - 14x on my CZ.

Tactical turrets for dialing for distance.

It is on sale for much of the year for a good price. On sale right now for $100 off.

It seems to be the same scope as sold by Mueller and Primary Arms.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1009260263

 

[Kevmo]

I think the Bushnell recommended above is a really good deal. I would dig into reviews of it.

The Mueller APV has a pretty good reputation and is certainly in the price range you are looking for. It's an adjustable objective scope (which is helpful for a rimfire scope, since you are more likely to shoot at different ranges than a fixed paralax centerfire scope). They have a range of maximum magnification ranges (14-25X) within that line.

I have a Mueller on my Savage FVSR - I like it. To be honest, it isn't the brightest glass, particularly at higher magnifications. I think you would get better glass with Leupold or Clearidge (and I am not talking ED or HD glass which gets you into other price categories). But it works. Again, dig into some reviews on Rimfire Central.

Clearidge does have a higher magnification scope, but it's a bit above your price range.

The Vortex Crossfire II would be another option for a higher magnification adjustable objective scope - about a hundred bucks more than the Mueller. I don't have any experience with it though - maybe others do.

One thing to think about is whether you need the extra magnification and will use it. Between 25 and 100 yards, it won't really be needed. You will definitely see holes at 25 at 4-9X - I guess at higher mag you could see them at 100 yards, depending. And getting target feedback like that can be helpful for new shooters (and coaches!).

But consider some disadvantages that come with higher magnification: more jitter, smaller eye box/more sensitive eye relief, and darker image (particularly at this end of the market). And that can be frustrating for someone starting out - we tend to dial them back at Appleseed. But shooting from the bench, these disadvantages are minimized.

thank you! i dont mind paying the higher price, but i've always read that you should get a rimfire specfic optic for rimfire, it looks like that Ultra XP is meant for centerfire.

i'll def look into the others you suggested and read up on reviews and such. I saw from a few youtubers that medium rings will fit for 40mm optics with a tiny bit of clearance so that's good.

 

[Catch-10-22]

thank you! i dont mind paying the higher price, but i've always read that you should get a rimfire specfic optic for rimfire, it looks like that Ultra XP is meant for centerfire.

i'll def look into the others you suggested and read up on reviews and such. I saw from a few youtubers that medium rings will fit for 40mm optics with a tiny bit of clearance so that's good.

I would disagree with the "rimfire-specific optic for rimfire" opinion - that is mostly driven by the fact that many centerfire scopes have fixed parallax at 100 yards (which create problems at shorter rimfire ranges), have BDCs for common centerfire cartridges, or are just heavier than they need to be for Rimfire. But the AO (adjustable objective) scopes recommended overcome the parallax issue (as would the side focus Midway BSA Tactical) and the rest is less relevant to your needs.

And MARS/PRS rimfire competitors mostly use centerfire scopes - most of which I can't afford for my centerfire rifles!

No need to go crazy to start though

 

[Growler215]

I have an old Simmons Aetec in 2.8-10x on a 10/22 that I've been happy with. Wouldn't recommend Simmons now though as I think their quality may have gone down (ot surprising since they cost less now than they did 20 years ago.)

But, the higher magnification is great when target shooting at 50 yds. For target shooting at 100+ yds I think 14x would be sweet. Nice to see your holes while you are shooting without breaking out a spotting scope.

 

[slsc98]

...my research shows the nikon EFR 2-9x, I would like to have more magification than that, but i know the 2-9x are very common....

Dang. This one is right here in the MDS classifieds but, is only 2-7 :-( :
https://www.mdshooters.com/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=42253

 

[Catch-10-22]

Dang. This one is right here in the MDS classifieds but, is only 2-7 :-( :
https://www.mdshooters.com/vbclassified.php?do=ad&id=42253

Yes, a very nice scope. But the fixed 100-yard parallax wouldn't be ideal for rimfire. The EFR scope referenced is a very specific model in that ProStaff line with an adjustable objective.

 

[Pinecone]

Most rimfire scopes are designed to a price point. And not top of the line.

I have all centerfire scopes. Except my Weaver V22 from 1966.