HB786/SB737 RIFLE & SHOTGUN SENATE TODAY 4/5 11AM

[Malleovic]

did this pass ?

Not yet. Nor has a conference committee been appointed, if the website is anything to go by.

 

[Bertfish]

With no way to legally privately transfer long guns, the State has finally put in place the last necessary piece to effectively develop a gun registry. As far as I'm concerned, this is worse than FSA13. Checkmate in 5.

If any of you have guns without paperwork, guard these with jealous attention.

Yep

 

[danb]

Nothing on session 3 calendar for this bill (so far). House is adjourned till 9pm

 

[fabsroman]

With no way to legally privately transfer long guns, the State has finally put in place the last necessary piece to effectively develop a gun registry. As far as I'm concerned, this is worse than FSA13. Checkmate in 5.

If any of you have guns without paperwork, guard these with jealous attention.

That would require that we go through a Form 77R for each and every transfer going forward. Guess we see if they require something like that next session. I wonder if putting together a registry could be deemed unconstitutional.

 

[fabsroman]

Nothing on session 3 calendar for this bill (so far). House is adjourned till 9pm

Coming down to the wire on this one.

 

[Stoveman]

The word we got from someone very in the know is that Atterbeary is fit to be tied with what the Senate did. Says that she is playing the "This is what Mike Busch wanted" card.

No conference committee yet, in fact the only person who gave us a possible name for the Senate side was Zirkin but he didn't sound like he actually knew.

 

[Doctor_M]

That would require that we go through a Form 77R for each and every transfer going forward. Guess we see if they require something like that next session. I wonder if putting together a registry could be deemed unconstitutional.

I don't think that's even necessary. The FFL has a record of the sale and since you now can't get rid of a gun without another FFL having a record of it, there is no legal way for a gun purchased after this law goes into effect to be untracked. It won't be efficient, but it will be a baseline from that point on.

 

[mac1_131]

I see proposed joint session 11:30 pm to honor speaker Busch. That takes another 30 minutes away from bill passing.

Is 786 passed or not? Senate passed it, what about house? I guess Senate amended it again, so house has to recede or conference?

 

[rseymorejr]

I don't think that's even necessary. The FFL has a record of the sale and since you now can't get rid of a gun without another FFL having a record of it, there is no legal way for a gun purchased after this law goes into effect to be untracked. It won't be efficient, but it will be a baseline from that point on.

For all those that comply

 

[rob b]

That would require that we go through a Form 77R for each and every transfer going forward. Guess we see if they require something like that next session. I wonder if putting together a registry could be deemed unconstitutional.

why on a 77r and not a 4473 form ?

 

[Doctor_M]

For all those that comply

In solidarity, brother.

 

[danb]

The word we got from someone very in the know is that Atterbeary is fit to be tied with what the Senate did. Says that she is playing the "This is what Mike Busch wanted" card.

No conference committee yet, in fact the only person who gave us a possible name for the Senate side was Zirkin but he didn't sound like he actually knew.

If Busch really wanted it, it would have been passed a week ago when the legislature could override a veto before next session. All the really important stuff passed and had the veto overridden by now. I believe the real message is Busch thinks your a speck on a flea.

Anyway, shes new, so playing that card would be annoying to actual people who knew him a long time. If true, she sounds like a piece of work.

 

[shershot99]

This bill applies to shotguns and rifles ("long gun"). This had a component in it that prevented the loaning of a long gun except under certain circumstances. That has been done away with. Now, this only applies to the sale of long guns. All buyers of long guns, whether brand new and from a dealer or 100 years old and from a neighbor, would have to go through a NICS background check.

There is another bill out there pertaining to transfer/loan of a regulated firearm, which is a handgun or an assault weapon. Granted, at this point it probably only pertains to handguns though since one cannot possess an assault weapon unless one possessed it prior to 10/1/2013. From what I have read, the transfer/loan bill for handguns is also going to pass. Just means I have to loan my dad an HBAR or a semi-auto shotgun for home defense instead of my handgun, but that might have even changed. Believe it was changed such that I just cannot loan it to him if a reasonable person would believe my dad is prohibited from owning a firearm. Essentially, this is giving the prosecutors another tool in their bag to go after thugs that loan guns to one another without it actually being a "transfer" and thereby the "loan" ends up in a Not Guilty verdict based upon Chow v. State.

I see. Thank you for the clarification. I appreciate it sir.

 

[Stoveman]

I see proposed joint session 11:30 pm to honor speaker Busch. That takes another 30 minutes away from bill passing.

Is 786 passed or not? Senate passed it, what about house? I guess Senate amended it again, so house has to recede or conference?

It's back to the House, Atterbeary is pissed.

 

[Stoveman]

Side note: Mike Dougherty was scheduled to be on NRATV with Dana Loesch tonight, I think 6pm to discuss.

 

[Allen65]

Anyway, shes new, so playing that card would be annoying to actual people who knew him a long time. If true, she sounds like a piece of work.

If so, that's good for us. She'll have as many friends in the House as Dumais has, and will be just as effective (or more accurately, ineffective) in getting her pet bills passed in future sessions.

 

[Stoveman]

If Busch really wanted it, it would have been passed a week ago when the legislature could override a veto before next session. All the really important stuff passed and had the veto overridden by now. I believe the real message is Busch thinks your a speck on a flea.

Anyway, shes new, so playing that card would be annoying to actual people who knew him a long time. If true, she sounds like a piece of work.

Don't shoot the messenger, just passing on what we heard from an extremely reliable source.

 

[jefflac02]

The word we got from someone very in the know is that Atterbeary is fit to be tied with what the Senate did. Says that she is playing the "This is what Mike Busch wanted" card.

No conference committee yet, in fact the only person who gave us a possible name for the Senate side was Zirkin but he didn't sound like he actually knew.

Time to troll her on twitter to amp it up a little.


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[mrbob1000]

It's back to the House, Atterbeary is pissed.

So they have to amend it again, pass it to the senate, and re-vote? I'm new to this.

 

[mac1_131]

Time to troll her on twitter to amp it up a little.


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