Hunter misses deer, dies anyway

[Doco Overboard]

I would but she seems to be absent minded as of lately
I went back at looked at the first video, some of that debris flying around could be or is dust which I have witnessed with less glamorous calibers But then it also looks like some hair and leaves flying all over the place. Wouldn't surprise me if he shot it right through the eyes and is going to or has done a follow up video, the guys a shooter not a hunter trying to make a point.
But then he's the one making videos while I just talk about stuff.
I would however like to see him make a video of him humping that iron to a few of my stand locations though. Probably would result in a miss, there's nothing for him to set the bipod on.

 

[fabsroman]

OK, firstly, I think he is shooting FMJs(at least at the practice range).

I'm convinced he shot the deer through and through both eyes. If you watch the vid, start at around 3:50. You'll notice a bulge on the deer's frontal lobe. That bulge is not normal. That is a result of a .50 cal bullet passing through its head via the eye sockets and expanding the cranium from the inside.

Secondly, if you watch melnic's slo-mo, you will see a splash in the background just behind the deer. That splash is the bullet impacting the ground. Ignore the snot flying out of the deer's nose. It's just snot.

This is what I am thinking too. No way the shockwave from a 50 BMG is strong enough to pull both eyes from the deer's skull. I am not believing that story. If it was that strong, a sniper could kill several people by just putting the bullet right past all of them without hitting any of them. Seriously doubt this guy would be the first one to ever figure out the shock wave is just that powerful.

 

[outrider58]

You can kill a deer with an RPG, a mortar, artillery, an A1Abrams, an A10, an F-18, a Tomahawk, a nuke, etc. Does not mean it is the best weapon for the job.

I think .338 Lapua would be the largest cartridge I would use, but I would not un-friend somebody for killing bambi with a .50 BMG. lol

By the way, I get a lot of grief about using .300 Win Mag. The deer do not complain though.

My longest kill was with a 300WM. 170 yds off hand standing during a blizzard. It destroyed the whole front end of the yearling doe.

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[fabsroman]

My longest kill was with a 300WM. 170 yds off hand standing during a blizzard. It destroyed the whole front end of the yearlings door.

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Yeah, my two longest were at 250 with the .300 Win Mag after sprinting 100 yards to close the distance. I was hunting a 250 acre farm and I saw the deer coming down the edge row from the top of the mountain. Ran to the last building before the field and waited there for them to come down. They had been spooked by something and they were moving. I only had a couple of seconds to try and control my breathing, but I at least had a fence post to rest the rifle on. When they came to the creek at 250, the doe and button buck stopped before jumping it. I dropped the button buck. The doe stopped on the other side and I was a little bit behind on her, so she was able to hobble away and up a hill. Closed the 250 yards and went up the hill. There she was 100 yards away from me and I was able to put a better shot on her that ended the misery. One of 3 deer I have wounded. I can remember each of the three. Can only remember a couple of other deer I have killed.

If I tried that crap now, I would be in the morgue.

As far as meat damage goes, I try to put the bullet in the rib cage, but it doesn't always work out. The Barnes X bullets are supposed to deposit most of their energy in the cavity of the animal, but that doesn't always work out either.

 

[Ideal Paradigm]

Well, I guess we can now say you can use 50bmg to hunt deer. From the video it does seem like he hit something, maybe the mouth. I am skeptical it was just the pressure wave.

I have a pretty good idea what would have happened had he really hit the head. The head would be vaporized down to about the neck. There are some videos around if you really want to see graphic game management.

Don't try this on bucks.



I am going to say that it was not the shockwave. Looks to me that he hit something, just not the brain.

I saw this thread and I was about the put the same video up showing the same thing.

 

[fabsroman]

Well, I guess we can now say you can use 50bmg to hunt deer. From the video it does seem like he hit something, maybe the mouth. I am skeptical it was just the pressure wave.

I have a pretty good idea what would have happened had he really hit the head. The head would be vaporized down to about the neck. There are some videos around if you really want to see graphic game management.

Don't try this on bucks.



I am going to say that it was not the shockwave. Looks to me that he hit something, just not the brain.

Just finally watched that video by Demolition Ranch. I like that guy. He has me wanting a AR in .300 Win Mag, but they are EXPENSIVE. Also learned something new from him tonight, the AR-15 was made in 1915. LOL I know better.

Yeah, Shockwave alright. No idea how the heck anybody thinks it was the shockwave of that bullet that killed that deer.

 

[HeatSeeker]

This is ridiculous and I do not agree it is an ethical kill. He clearly states he was planning a head shot so he was on a management hunt and his plan was to use a .50 cal to blow the deers head off. All he was doing was hunting and killing an animal with a cannon simply to see what it would do to the animal. What is ethical about that? That guy is an *******!!

 

[Mini14tac]

A lot of folks tell me that my 7mm Mag is way too much for white tails. I say bull hockey!!! It's all about bullet construction so that it does the job without messing up to much meat and what the shooter is comfortable with. Never had one run more than 40 yards after being hit with the 7mm. They were dead, they just did not know it yet. I have done more damage with my 308 depending on where you hit em. Quartering away shot took the whole opposite front shoulder off on one. The only thing I would worry about with the 50 cal BMG is what's behind what you are shooting at.

 

[outrider58]

Head shot.

This is ridiculous and I do not agree it is an ethical kill. He clearly states he was planning a head shot so he was on a management hunt and his plan was to use a .50 cal to blow the deers head off. All he was doing was hunting and killing an animal with a cannon simply to see what it would do to the animal. What is ethical about that? That guy is an *******!!

If memory serves, the above deer was hit with a .243, not a cannon. There are plenty of exploding deer headshots out there. This is nothing new.

And yes, he is an a-hole(but not necessarily for this).

 

[HeatSeeker]

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If memory serves, the above deer was hit with a .243, not a cannon. There are plenty of exploding deer headshots out there. This is nothing new.

And yes, he is an a-hole(but not necessarily for this).

My reasoning is that he was not really hunting the deer. His plan was to simply kill an animal using a very large caliber rifle to simply try and blow the deers head off.

 

[Stormrider1961]

What a jerk... deer hunting with a 50bmg?... seriously?

 

[Tracker]

A lot of folks tell me that my 7mm Mag is way too much for white tails. I say bull hockey!!! It's all about bullet construction so that it does the job without messing up to much meat and what the shooter is comfortable with. Never had one run more than 40 yards after being hit with the 7mm. They were dead, they just did not know it yet. I have done more damage with my 308 depending on where you hit em. Quartering away shot took the whole opposite front shoulder off on one. The only thing I would worry about with the 50 cal BMG is what's behind what you are shooting at.

A few years back I worked with a guy whose family owned a farm in Ga. They had permits to take about 100 deer a year. He used a 7mm mag because (as he put it) I never have to track. The deer is ALWAYS right where I shot it.

As I see it there is nothing unethical about that

 

[j_h_smith]

What a jerk... deer hunting with a 50bmg?... seriously?

Who needs an AR15 rifle? Aren't you as guilty as the loony left for setting limits?

You can hunt deer, but not with a (insert your answer here). Fudds are the same way, they have no issue with the typical hunting shotguns and rifles, but why would anyone need an AR15.

Go ahead and judge. The deer dropped and died about as quickly as God could allow. What's unethical about that?

 

[GOG-MD]

Deer hunting with a 50 BMG is like shooting a squirrel with a .308 or dropping a nuke to take out a single tank. Gets the job done, but is completely overkill.

 

[j_h_smith]

Deer hunting with a 50 BMG is like shooting a squirrel with a .308 or dropping a nuke to take out a single tank. Gets the job done, but is completely overkill.

Be careful there. You are beginning to think like the looney left or a Fudd. Please lets not judge others. Remember, some think that no one needs an AR15. Do you?

 

[fabsroman]

What a jerk... deer hunting with a 50bmg?... seriously?

Dead by a bullet is dead by a bullet. Does it really matter?

The thing that matters the most is bullet placement, bullet selection, and cartridge selection. After that, does it really matter if a deer is head shot with a .243, .25-06, .270 Win, .308, .30-06, .300 Win Mag, 7mm Mag, .338 Remington Ultra Mag, .338 Lapua, .50 BMG, 20mm, or anything else that is legal to hunt deer with? It just does not matter what a person uses, especially on a head shot where meat will not be wasted whatsoever.

Now, completely blowing a deer carcass into hamburger with a howitzer is a different matter, unless the deer are attacking.

50 BMG would not be my choice of rifle for a myriad of reasons, but not because it is not enough gun to get the job done.

 

[fabsroman]

Be careful there. You are beginning to think like the looney left or a Fudd. Please lets not judge others. Remember, some think that no one needs an AR15. Do you?

He is right though. We don't "need" an AR-15 to kill bambi. Don't "need" a .300 Win Mag either. I use a .300 Win Mag just in case it is ever needed for a really long shot and/or a really large deer.

However, there are times when an AR-15 is needed, and when that time comes it is better to have that AR-15 than to wish you had it.

Having certain firearms is like having health insurance, life insurance, etc. You don't really need them, until you need them. Then, you better hope you have them.

 

[Bountied]

I shot a ground hog from 15ft with a 12ga slug. His burrow was right under my deer stand, poor guy didn't have much more than a bloody mess for a head after that. Felt kind of bad but oh well

 

[fabsroman]

I shot a ground hog from 15ft with a 12ga slug. His burrow was right under my deer stand, poor guy didn't have much more than a bloody mess for a head after that. Felt kind of bad but oh well

You think the groundhog you shot with a slug is any deader than the groundhog I shot from 10 feet with a 3 1/2" 12 gauge turkey load? I was coming out of the woods after turkey hunting and saw him with his head up. He went back down, so I set up on the downwind side of his hole. He popped his head up, I pulled the trigger, and his body was launched a couple of feet out of the hole.

 

[Bountied]

You think the groundhog you shot with a slug is any deader than the groundhog I shot from 10 feet with a 3 1/2" 12 gauge turkey load? I was coming out of the woods after turkey hunting and saw him with his head up. He went back down, so I set up on the downwind side of his hole. He popped his head up, I pulled the trigger, and his body was launched a couple of feet out of the hole.

Dead is dead, I was going along the lines of overkill for the intended target. a .22 at 15ft would have done the trick. A 3" magnum slug at 15ft disintegrated it's head. Mission accomplished no more groundhog