Need some help from the mds braintrust on a Garand

[JMintzer]

do tell please

Have they gone to the big shredder in the sky?

The CMP CEO has stated that since they don't know who owns what, they will not be coming back thru the lend/lease program, and they are not importers (like BlueSky).

A private importer will handle that..., selling them to dealers, or to the public, much like they do with the Mosins etc...

 

[buellsfurn]

The CMP CEO has stated that since they don't know who owns what, they will not be coming back thru the lend/lease program, and they are not importers (like BlueSky).

A private importer will handle that..., selling them to dealers, or to the public, much like they do with the Mosins etc...

time will tell cant believe CMP doesn't want a piece of the pie

 

[Threeband]

time will tell cant believe CMP doesn't want a piece of the pie

The CMP's congressional charter only allows them to receive rifles from the U.S. Army. Not from South Korea.

The rifles which were loaned to Greece, Turkey, Denmark, etc. always remained U.S. Property. Those nations returned the loaned rifles to the U.S. Army, which declared them surplus, and turned them over to the CMP for sale to qualified citizens.

In previous years, Garands and Carbines were sometimes sold by companies such as AIM, SOG, Woolworths, etc. These were rifles which were out-and-out purchased by Korea, Israel, and other countries with their own money. They were not loaned. They were the property of Korea, Israel, etc. That meant not only could they be sold to U.S. importers, but also the CMP could not receive them.

The CMP can only receive rifles from the U.S. Army.

There has been some doubt as to the ownership of these Korean Garands, which as said to be beat to hell anyway. Korea says they bought them with their own money. Apparently some have claimed they are on loan.

 

[stu929]

The CMP's congressional charter only allows them to receive rifles from the U.S. Army. Not from South Korea.

The rifles which were loaned to Greece, Turkey, Denmark, etc. always remained U.S. Property. Those nations returned the loaned rifles to the U.S. Army, which declared them surplus, and turned them over to the CMP for sale to qualified citizens.

In previous years, Garands and Carbines were sometimes sold by companies such as AIM, SOG, Woolworths, etc. These were rifles which were out-and-out purchased by Korea, Israel, and other countries with their own money. They were not loaned. They were the property of Korea, Israel, etc. That meant not only could they be sold to U.S. importers, but also the CMP could not receive them.

The CMP can only receive rifles from the U.S. Army.

There has been some doubt as to the ownership of these Korean Garands, which as said to be beat to hell anyway. Korea says they bought them with their own money. Apparently some have claimed they are on loan.

This!

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[j_h_smith]

The CMP's congressional charter only allows them to receive rifles from the U.S. Army. Not from South Korea.

The rifles which were loaned to Greece, Turkey, Denmark, etc. always remained U.S. Property. Those nations returned the loaned rifles to the U.S. Army, which declared them surplus, and turned them over to the CMP for sale to qualified citizens.

In previous years, Garands and Carbines were sometimes sold by companies such as AIM, SOG, Woolworths, etc. These were rifles which were out-and-out purchased by Korea, Israel, and other countries with their own money. They were not loaned. They were the property of Korea, Israel, etc. That meant not only could they be sold to U.S. importers, but also the CMP could not receive them.

The CMP can only receive rifles from the U.S. Army.

There has been some doubt as to the ownership of these Korean Garands, which as said to be beat to hell anyway. Korea says they bought them with their own money. Apparently some have claimed they are on loan.

Mic drop and walk off the stage.

 

[mac1_131]

This looks at a distance like a typical rebuilt SA WW II garand. Needs a full tech inspection to get a firm value on. But I agree 700-900 range depending on exact condition. Definately not 1200. 1965 barrel date.

 

[protegeV]

This looks at a distance like a typical rebuilt SA WW II garand. Needs a full tech inspection to get a firm value on. But I agree 700-900 range depending on exact condition. Definately not 1200. 1965 barrel date.

Sounds about right. So far everything I've been offered is in the $600- $700 range. I responded to a few of them offering my 15-22 instead. Since they thought it was acceptable to offer a firearm of half the value for trade, I did the same . Can't imagine why I haven't heard back

 

[Threeband]

Dam Yankee.

 

[Redcobra]

Garand Guys:

I have a M1 Garand CMP "Correct Grade" with paperwork. What's that rifle worth today?

 

[Pinecone]

Even if the korean m1s come home i doubt that will drasitcally lower prices. Reports have been poor at best plus import stamps lower value.

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Korean ones will not be imported. Most of them were lend/lease, so they technically still belong to the USG.

 

[Pinecone]

Finish looked Greek black from the pictures, I didn't say it was definitively.

The CMP wasn going to get the Korean ones because they weren't US property. The Koreans had bought them and wanted to sell them. I believe Orest said that the CMP had seen those and weren't interested anyway.

I'm more interested in what the 800k or so M1 Carbines will do to that market if they were to be imported, even if beat to crap. Those are the ones that were flat out denied import, while the administration relented on the Garands before finally denying them too.

SOME of them are owned by Korea, not ALL of them.

But I have heard they are in not great shape.

 

[stu929]

Korean ones will not be imported. Most of them were lend/lease, so they technically still belong to the USG.

According to Korea they own them and want money for them.

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[Pinecone]

The CMP's congressional charter only allows them to receive rifles from the U.S. Army. Not from South Korea.

The rifles which were loaned to Greece, Turkey, Denmark, etc. always remained U.S. Property. Those nations returned the loaned rifles to the U.S. Army, which declared them surplus, and turned them over to the CMP for sale to qualified citizens.

In previous years, Garands and Carbines were sometimes sold by companies such as AIM, SOG, Woolworths, etc. These were rifles which were out-and-out purchased by Korea, Israel, and other countries with their own money. They were not loaned. They were the property of Korea, Israel, etc. That meant not only could they be sold to U.S. importers, but also the CMP could not receive them.

The CMP can only receive rifles from the U.S. Army.

There has been some doubt as to the ownership of these Korean Garands, which as said to be beat to hell anyway. Korea says they bought them with their own money. Apparently some have claimed they are on loan.

As I understand it, there are ones that were purchased by SK and some that were loaned.

The ones that were loaned could be brought back by the US Army and transferred to CMP. The others would have to be imported.

The problem is, the SK do not want to figure out which are which. And legally, they cannot just say XXXXX are US owned, take any XXXXX of the rifles.

 

[j_h_smith]

Garand Guys:

I have a M1 Garand CMP "Correct Grade" with paperwork. What's that rifle worth today?

Not to be condescending, but it's worth what someone will pay for it. If it's a manufacture and serial number in a certain range, it could demand a couple hundred dollar premium to that collector. Putting it on your shoulder and walking a gun show, could cost you as much as $500 if you sell without knowing what you have.

Garands by any other name is not just a Garand. There are FAR too many variables to try to give you a value over the internet.

 

[mac1_131]

Garand Guys:

I have a M1 Garand CMP "Correct Grade" with paperwork. What's that rifle worth today?

let's just say it's an ordinary post-war SA correct grade with no special s/n range I would say 1000-1200

 

[Orlando]

Last year CMP was selling Post War SA correct grades at the South Store for $1500. If yours is a older DCM WWII correct grade it would go for more

 

[Augie]

Correct grades with paperwork are currently around 1500.00.

As far as the Korean Garands I remember a thread on the CMP forum a few years back where Orest stated they were in such poor condition that the CMP had no interest in them.

 

[Orlando]

Correct grades with paperwork are currently around 1500.00.

As far as the Korean Garands I remember a thread on the CMP forum a few years back where Orest stated they were in such poor condition that the CMP had no interest in them.

Has nothing to do with condition ,CMP does not buy/Import rifles. The rifles they sell come from the US Army that were returned form other countries.

 

[buellsfurn]

The CMP's congressional charter only allows them to receive rifles from the U.S. Army. Not from South Korea.

The rifles which were loaned to Greece, Turkey, Denmark, etc. always remained U.S. Property. Those nations returned the loaned rifles to the U.S. Army, which declared them surplus, and turned them over to the CMP for sale to qualified citizens.

In previous years, Garands and Carbines were sometimes sold by companies such as AIM, SOG, Woolworths, etc. These were rifles which were out-and-out purchased by Korea, Israel, and other countries with their own money. They were not loaned. They were the property of Korea, Israel, etc. That meant not only could they be sold to U.S. importers, but also the CMP could not receive them.

The CMP can only receive rifles from the U.S. Army.

There has been some doubt as to the ownership of these Korean Garands, which as said to be beat to hell anyway. Korea says they bought them with their own money. Apparently some have claimed they are on loan.

id say sir you've done your home work. so much for getting a CMP Garand special few hundred bucks cheaper

 

[buellsfurn]

Mic drop and walk off the stage.

now that's funny