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  • swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,489
    Westminster USA
    To the layperson listening to the radio news, because of the semantics involved, it makes it seem like we're against fingerprinting for carry permits.

    that's all I'm saying.

    The media doesn't get the difference so the public doesn't either.
     

    redeemed.man

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 29, 2013
    17,444
    HoCo
    Understood. I am against fingerprinting for anything gun related until they start requiring these illegals and dead people to be fingerprinted to vote.
     

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2013
    34,131
    Some of us consider fingerprinting to be a demeaning, degrading act that is normally associated with being booked for a crime. To those who say it's required for many jobs, the simple answer is that choosing to apply for a job that requires it is a choice, not exercise of a Constitutional Right.

    Add the time, expense, personal humiliation, and the "future crime" database you are being entered into, as well as the MD Gen. Ass'y's knowledge and intention that the exercise be an additional hurdle to pass in order to exercise your rights without adding any additional level of security that isn't covered by the 4473, and you've got something that people ought to be fired up about. I think it's outrageous.
     

    Mr H

    Banana'd
    Some of us consider fingerprinting to be a demeaning, degrading act that is normally associated with being booked for a crime. To those who say it's required for many jobs, the simple answer is that choosing to apply for a job that requires it is a choice, not exercise of a Constitutional Right.

    Add the time, expense, personal humiliation, and the "future crime" database you are being entered into, as well as the MD Gen. Ass'y's knowledge and intention that the exercise be an additional hurdle to pass in order to exercise your rights without adding any additional level of security that isn't covered by the 4473, and you've got something that people ought to be fired up about. I think it's outrageous.

    Well stated, and I agree completely.

    "A little infringement" is in no way different, IMO, than "a little pregnant."
     

    Cal68

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 4, 2014
    2,007
    Montgomery County
    I'll always remember frosh during 3rd reader(iirc) in the Senate, up and down, the fingerprint requirement was going to make straw buyers have to stand in front of a trooper to get printed. It was going to be this huge deterant. Senators questioned him on this, and he went to *someone*(legal or msp rep) for verification right during the debate, applicants would be getting prints at the barracks, and the fee would be small. The deterant factor was his only stated reason. A burden for the sake of burden.

    When I got my HQL, the person who fingerprinted me looked like she was barely out of high school and I'm not sure she would have known what a straw buyer would even be expected to look like! So much for getting fingerprinted by a trooper at a barracks or a police station. The HQL is just a money making machine for the State and a pain in the you know what for us.

    Cal68
     

    redeemed.man

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 29, 2013
    17,444
    HoCo
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    28Shooter

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 19, 2010
    8,220
    Baltimore, Maryland
    Some of us consider fingerprinting to be a demeaning, degrading act that is normally associated with being booked for a crime. To those who say it's required for many jobs, the simple answer is that choosing to apply for a job that requires it is a choice, not exercise of a Constitutional Right.

    Add the time, expense, personal humiliation, and the "future crime" database you are being entered into, as well as the MD Gen. Ass'y's knowledge and intention that the exercise be an additional hurdle to pass in order to exercise your rights without adding any additional level of security that isn't covered by the 4473, and you've got something that people ought to be fired up about. I think it's outrageous.

    Well said! It is outrageous and a blatant usurpation of rights of the citizens of Maryland by the Democrat Maryland General Assembly and our former governor.
     

    W2D

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 2, 2015
    2,075
    Escaped MD for FL
    Moms Demand Action posted news about the suit. Be afraid.

    'On Wednesday, another lawsuit to challenge Maryland's Firearm Safety Act of 2013 was filed. The fingerprinting requirement for handgun buyers, designed to stop straw purchases, is called "invasive." '.


    This on what the site says is a non-partisan group that is also manning the phones for Hillary. Is this a tax exempt group??
     

    W2D

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 2, 2015
    2,075
    Escaped MD for FL
    BTW, MDA on the Facebook says that goal #2 is:
    2) Promote gun safety so that America’s children will no longer be exposed to unacceptable levels of risk;

    I'm going ask if they will have live fire at the training class. :innocent0
     

    Jim12

    Let Freedom Ring
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2013
    34,131
    BTW, MDA on the Facebook says that goal #2 is:
    2) Promote gun safety so that America’s children will no longer be exposed to unacceptable levels of risk;

    I'm going ask if they will have live fire at the training class. :innocent0

    :thumbsup: Mandatory firearms training for all of America's children.
     

    rseymorejr

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 28, 2011
    26,251
    Harford County
    BTW, MDA on the Facebook says that goal #2 is:
    2) Promote gun safety so that America’s children will no longer be exposed to unacceptable levels of risk;

    I'm going ask if they will have live fire at the training class. :innocent0

    So, they are going to promote having their parents be able to obtain a permit to protect them?
     

    MJD438

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 28, 2012
    5,854
    Somewhere in MD
    BTW, MDA on the Facebook says that goal #2 is:
    2) Promote gun safety so that America’s children will no longer be exposed to unacceptable levels of risk;

    I'm going ask if they will have live fire at the training class. :innocent0

    I hypothesize that more teens are injured/killed by texting & driving, or drinking & driving, or other typical risky teen rebellion activities than are injured/killed by firearms. Where is their hue and cry on those issues? Oh, right, they don't care because "guns".
     

    Not_an_outlaw

    Ultimate Member
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 26, 2013
    4,679
    Prince Frederick, MD
    Moms Demand Action posted news about the suit. Be afraid.

    'On Wednesday, another lawsuit to challenge Maryland's Firearm Safety Act of 2013 was filed. The fingerprinting requirement for handgun buyers, designed to stop straw purchases, is called "invasive." '.


    This on what the site says is a non-partisan group that is also manning the phones for Hillary. Is this a tax exempt group??

    Inquiring minds want to know.
     

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