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[Blacksmith101]

There seems to be a subtext regarding "discrimination" which might force a wedge into a crack in order to make this a civil rights/discrimination issue. Hard for the liberals to disparage fighting against discrimination, after all.

The HQL is very discriminatory against the poor, elderly, uneducated, rural, and big city residents.

Must get training.
Must have a place to fire one shot.
Must have computer access and skills with a specific operating system.
Must have a debit or credit card.
Must get specific type fingerprints at limited mostly private locations that are expensive.
Must have a drivers license (at least when a photo was required).
Must pay an arbitrary fee.
Must wait until physical permit is in your possession before purchase. (total process will exceed 30 days just to get permission to try to exercise a Constitutional right)

 

[Mark75H]

The HQL is very discriminatory against the poor, elderly, uneducated, rural, and big city residents.

Must get training.
Can be refused by trainer without appeal.
Must have a place to fire one shot.
Must have computer access and skills with a specific operating system.
Must have a debit or credit card.
Must get specific type fingerprints at limited mostly private locations that are expensive.
Must travel to fingerprinting location.
Must have a drivers license (at least when a photo was required).
Must pay an arbitrary fee.
Must wait until physical permit is in your possession before purchase. (total process will exceed 30 days just to get permission to try to exercise a Constitutional right)

And so on

 

[webb297]

This is just the first step. There is a still a long road ahead and we will need your continued help and support as this suit proceeds.

Soooooo, 2 Weeks?

 

[highli99]

Good Luck MSI! I appreciate the explanation on why focus on carry is not effective at the moment. Sock it to the Frosh.

 

[esqappellate]

Then we need to keep a close watch on them. First HINT of criminal wrongdoing and the gate slams shut on them.

And I kicked in to the HQL Fund yet again...

Thank you, Thank you!

 

[esqappellate]

Soooooo, 2 Weeks?

More like 2 years.

 

[esqappellate]

Several differences from other states.

The HQL is redundant. It almost completely duplicates the pre existing background check that has been in place since 1996 and regulation of handguns since 1968. It serves no new purpose beyond a new burden.

Although it is called a handgun license, it doesnt actually license anyone to do anything related to a handgun. Its not for possession, carry, or even purchase, because to purchase, one must go through the same process again, almost entirely. But at almost 1/5th the cost and 1/4 the wait. How do they justify that?

The only thing new about it are the fees and the fingerprints. Fingerprints are tied to the same background check systems and NICS, they add no new measure of public protection.

Even the training component was preexisting. They could have just altered that.

In cases like this, the decision should be at the very least based on accomoishing a goal by the least restrictive means necessary. MD's stated goal was already accomplished by the existing regulated firearms process. The actual goal of preventing or reducing legal ownership isnt allowed.

this is exactly correct!

 

[Warwolvesinspace]

Still haven't gotten my HQL. I'll just wait until I move to get a handgun. I'm not paying this state more. I already pay 40%+ in taxes every check.

 

[montoya32]

There are over ten states with licensing schemes to purchase or even own a firearm (any firearm). Many include a training requirement. Always hear people on the training requirement, claim the "one shot" rule in MD is unique, well that can be fixed with a sharpie pen, and you still have the scheme like over 20% of the states have. I'm just not sure why this kind of argument against the HQL is so special, when it appears no other states fight it, or may have and lost. The problem with "burden", it is very subjective, unless you are a leftist talking voter registration.. then anything is a burden.

Other states don't have the licensing scheme PLUS a second background check/wait period.


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[Schipperke]

Other states don't have the licensing scheme PLUS a second background check/wait period.


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Since when does redundancy became a remarkable argument to negate a law? There are states with waiting periods for ANY firearm, and license required to buy ammunition. Maryland will get there soon..

 

[Jaybeez]

Other states don't have the licensing scheme PLUS a second background check/wait period.


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California did. See below

Since when does redundancy became a remarkable argument to negate a law? There are states with waiting periods for ANY firearm, and license required to buy ammunition. Maryland will get there soon..

Since when does redundancy negate a law? Since here, in this thread in Silvester v Harris that you've posted in.

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=4216009

 

[swinokur]

If SS is applied, redundancy won't pass muster.

 

[kalister1]

We have to go through a Background check every 30 days now.

 

[dblas]

We have to go through a Background check every 30 days now.

Background check for the HQL, and then a background check each and every time you buy a handgun.

 

[Jaybeez]

Background check for the HQL, and then a background check each and every time you buy a handgun.

I think that was a "one gun a month" law joke

 

[robmints]

You guys made the breaking news crawl on fox45.

 

[jeffie7]

Amazing how the left will push so hard for not having voter IDs because people in bad areas, can't afford to get to the DMV for an ID and it restricts them of their rights...

 

[swinokur]

but somehow they can make it to the welfare/food stamp office.

 

[Minuteman]

I'm seeing articles now popping up in the mainstream media about the case.

 

[jeffie7]

WMAL just touched on it around 8:48