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  • Indiana Jones

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    Mar 18, 2011
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    I still dont understand why people want to own drones. Seems stupid. Certainly not something to start a revolution over..
     

    Melnic

    Ultimate Member
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    Dec 27, 2012
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    HoCo
    I still dont understand why people want to own drones. Seems stupid. Certainly not something to start a revolution over..

    FAA is lumping ALL Remote Control aircraft into a "Drone" category

    I have about $10k in RC aircraft so it's a big deal to me.
     

    kcbrown

    Super Genius
    Jun 16, 2012
    1,393
    I still dont understand why people want to own drones. Seems stupid. Certainly not something to start a revolution over..


    "I don't have an interest in that particular liberty, and don't understand why anyone would, so why should I care about it?"


    Now you know why liberty is nearly dead in this country.



    (Sent with Tapatalk, so apologies for the lackluster formatting)
     

    Indiana Jones

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    "I don't have an interest in that particular liberty, and don't understand why anyone would, so why should I care about it?"


    Now you know why liberty is nearly dead in this country.



    (Sent with Tapatalk, so apologies for the lackluster formatting)


    You are definitely wrong about me here. I think registration is absolutely stupid, I just don't get the hipster fascination with drones the last 3 years. And I don't think it's worth a revolution. Not even a blip on the radar of tyranny compared to the myriad of other shit over the last 75 years. Thank you for putting words in my mouth and taking my post out of context. Have a great day Mr Patriot!
     

    alucard0822

    For great Justice
    Oct 29, 2007
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    You are definitely wrong about me here. I think registration is absolutely stupid, I just don't get the hipster fascination with drones the last 3 years. And I don't think it's worth a revolution. Not even a blip on the radar of tyranny compared to the myriad of other shit over the last 75 years. Thank you for putting words in my mouth and taking my post out of context. Have a great day Mr Patriot!

    It's primarily a symptom of Liberty being dissolved, where successful 2A prohibitions are unique in that they are both a symptom, and potentially a cause of it.

    This is a lot more far-reaching than you might think, kinda like an "assault weapon" ban affecting at minimum every semi-auto with 10+rds capacity. This wasn't a law that was passed, in fact the only law passed was by congress prohibiting the FAA from regulating what they are regulating, it's a government agency basically making up the law with impunity. This affects just about every RC aircraft from junior's FPV quad from christmas, dad's electric foamie and helis, grampa's prized silk and wood fuelie, he's been flying for 50 years, even great grandpa's WWII vintage control line plane. It's also a new executive branch power grabbing tactic that is almost guaranteed to spread to the ATF and other agencies that we care a lot more about.
     

    Melnic

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    So I guess if it does not interest you then the Gubment can make us register bikes, skate boards. Musket balls, hair clippers.
     

    kcbrown

    Super Genius
    Jun 16, 2012
    1,393
    You are definitely wrong about me here. I think registration is absolutely stupid, I just don't get the hipster fascination with drones the last 3 years. And I don't think it's worth a revolution. Not even a blip on the radar of tyranny compared to the myriad of other shit over the last 75 years. Thank you for putting words in my mouth and taking my post out of context. Have a great day Mr Patriot!

    My apologies for not seeing the full context of your message. I hope you can see how your message could easily be interpreted in the way I did.

    Save possibly for the right to arms (and largely because its removal essentially eliminates the possibility of revolution, which is that one last option to be used when all other options are gone), there likely aren't many liberties that most would regard as singularly being worth a revolution over. It's not any specific liberty, it's the combination that makes revolution worthy.

    And we have lost greatly on that front. There is now damned little that one can do that is not regulated, overseen, etc., and that is for those things that are left that one can do at all.

    There is a reason that old people look fondly upon the past, and it is not just because they were younger and more able in the past. It is because they had fewer restrictions in the past than they do in the present.

    The loss of liberty is the natural consequence of the operation of the system of government we live under. It wouldn't matter who we elected to office, the end result would be the same: liberty lost. This is so because there is no mechanism in the government that routinely eliminates restrictions, while the mere operation of government routinely generates additional restrictions.

    It's going to take an Article V Convention to change that. If we fail to do that, then the only way to truly regain liberty in any significant amount will be through violent revolution, which has historically been the only way liberty has ever been reclaimed in any truly substantial amount. And violent revolution is something that every one of us should tremble at the thought of, not only because it is highly unlikely to succeed, but also because it will destroy everything.
     

    Mike

    Propietario de casa, Toluca, México
    MDS Supporter
    http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=84807

    February 16- The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is reminding drone owners about this week’s registration deadline.

    If you own a drone weighing more than 0.55 lbs. but less than 55 lbs., and you’ve been flying it outdoors or plan to fly it outdoors for hobby or recreation, federal law requires you to register by this Friday, February 19, 2016.

    Registration is simple. You can register online at FAA.gov– it costs only $5 and is valid for three years. Once you complete the registration process, you will receive a certificate and an FAA registration number which must be marked on all unmanned aircraft that meet the registration weight requirement. You must have your certificate with you when you fly. You can print your certificate or save it to your personal electronic device, like your smartphone, or do both.

    “Besides being required by law, registration provides an excellent opportunity to educate yourself if you are new to aviation, and it will help you become part of the safety culture that has been the hallmark of traditional aviation for more than a century,” said FAA Administrator Michael Huerta.

    More than 342,000 people have already registered. Failure to register with the FAA could result in one or a combination of the following: a civil penalty of up to $27,500; a criminal fine of up to $250,000; imprisonment for up to three years.

    In the part I put in bold above, what federal law is that?
     

    alucard0822

    For great Justice
    Oct 29, 2007
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    http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=84807



    In the part I put in bold above, what federal law is that?

    Of course none.

    Think that is bad, Fox 43 contacted a couple RC clubs in the area to write this story, then basically ignored every fact they were given and printed this garbage, guess we have to insure them too, and the 400' ceiling codified as a requirement only near airports is now "law" too
    http://fox43.com/2016/02/15/didnt-register-your-drone-prepare-to-pay/
     

    N3YMY

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 21, 2013
    2,786
    So I guess if it does not interest you then the Gubment can make us register bikes, skate boards. Musket balls, hair clippers.

    Bicycle registration is required in Brunswick.

    My family is a bunch of outlaws... :innocent0
     

    Mike

    Propietario de casa, Toluca, México
    MDS Supporter
    Here is an excerpt from something I came across when reading about the FAA reauthorization bill....

    FAA bill won’t hit House floor this week
    By Martine Powers
    POLITICO
    February 19, 2016
    THE DAY OF THE DRONES: Today’s the FAA’s deadline to register small drones purchased prior to Dec. 21, 2015. That is, unless you’re a drone registration conscientious objector. The libertarian group TechFreedom announced Thursday that it’s suing the FAA for failing to follow a formal notice-and-comment rulemaking process when it published new regulations requiring that owners of small unmanned aircraft pay $5 to enter a registry, and affix a label to their device.
    Pro Technology’s Tony Romm writes: “The agency rushed to implement that system in time for the 2015 holiday season, fearing a torrent of new, small craft would take to the skies and pose new safety threats. … The FAA came to its final order with the help of major drone manufacturers — including Amazon, Google and their trade associations. … [TechFreedom] argues that the FAA didn't have authority from Congress to issue any such registration rules in the first place.”
     

    Mike

    Propietario de casa, Toluca, México
    MDS Supporter
    saw this and thought it might be of interest... They claim to be able to find the drone's controller on the ground. And the countermeasures look to be escalating as well.

    According to its makers, SkyTracker also allows law enforcement to “initiate countermeasures that, unlike other technologies, do not interfere with legitimate electronics or communications systems in the area, or with UAS that are being operated responsibly as determined by the U.S. government,” the company has said.

    What sort of countermeasures do those include? The company’s literature doesn’t say but last fall, at a House Transportation and Subcommittee Hearing, Rep. Peter De Fazio, D-Ore, said they included forcing the drone to land, revert back to the operator, or “in the case of hostiles, they deliver something to the operator,” presumably in the form of a jammed signal, at least. CACI did not immediately respond to a request for clarification.

    I'm sure the part about "operated responsibly as determined by the U.S. government" lets us all feel better.

    drone story.JPG

    http://www.defenseone.com/technolog...ests-new-drone-detecting-tech-airport/126195/
     

    Pinecone

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    Feb 4, 2013
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    Oh, and don't forget, before you fly, you must call and notify any nearby airports.
     

    Indiana Jones

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    Mar 18, 2011
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    I am absolutely fine with no drones near airports. If a bird strike can bring down an airliner, a drone certainly can. Remember your average person is borderline retarded. Im sure ill be called unamerican and someone will say "apply your logic to guns". There is a difference. Can you find it?
     

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