Hogan "Not on the agenda"

[Schipperke]

SCOTUS didn't grant Cert because of the number of plaintiffs. If that were the case, and by your logic, SCOTUS would have never heard Heller v DC, Mcdonald v Chicago, etc.

or Jane Roe ..

 

[T'Challa]

*Cough* Executive Order *cough cough *

 

[cmb]

I spoke with our local Rep, Deb Rey (R-St. Mary's), among others, about Hogan and his ability to do anything on the 2nd Amendment front.

People who think that because we have a Republican governor that we're going to get gun nirvana are seriously mistaken. The Democrats control both houses of the legislature by a veto-proof margin, so even if Hogan vetoes new legislation, they can still pass it. Unlike Barack, he can't issue executive orders or presidential memoranda to undo passed law (even if he was inclined to be a dictator, which he's not). He just can't.

He's a sophomore Republican Governor in a Democratically-controlled state. The Dems are looking for ANY wedge issue they can to make him a one-term governor (see also Erlich). He doesn't have the political capital to do ANYTHING for us on 2A issues. Stop expecting it. That doesn't make him a bad governor, especially considering what he's doing on taxation, which is the real tide on which he rode into office.

Finally, I'm tired of hearing the State Police Good & Substantial thing. The MSP takes their cues on the LAW from the Maryland Attorney General's office. Considering that fervent anti-gun zealot Brian Frosh occupies that office and has surrounded himself with like-minded minions, the MSP's hands are tied when it comes to interpretation of G&S law. Short of a favorable court outcome, there is nothing the Governor or Superintendent of the MSP can do.

That is the gist of my conversation with our delegate AND backed up by info from other reliable sources who know something of the law and legislature.

If you want to do something about it, get politically active, but don't expect Hogan to work miracles. You'll be waiting a long time.

Sure is a DEMOCRAT CONTOLLED STATE,but "Democratically controlled?",not hardly.

 

[Gryphon]

I'm calling retread

IDK, he doesn't sound like he is driving in the left lane, just like he is frustrated because he isn't independently wealthy; Gura, SAF, and anyone else who won't listen isn't swooping in to advance his ideas; and that no one else has volunteered the next several years of their life and all associated expenses to prove his point. The argument has some merit, but so does hoping I will win the lottery Wednesday night. If that happens, maybe problem solved.

 

[Mr H]

Could be one of a few

 

[Bertfish]

*Cough* Executive Order *cough cough *

You know a year or two ago I'd say no, take the high road. Don't stoop to their level. Respect the process and pass a bill.

Nowadays? Fight dirty. We try to take the high road and they lie and cheat to win anyways. They will do anything to keep us under their heel in this state.

 

[T'Challa]

You know a year or two ago I'd say no, take the high road. Don't stoop to their level. Respect the process and pass a bill.

Nowadays? Fight dirty. We try to take the high road and they lie and cheat to win anyways. They will do anything to keep us under their heel in this state.

I honestly don't think that Hogan is as conservative as advertised. I see him as a shroud business man who will leave 2A as is so long as he can make the State a bit more fiscally responsible and business friendly. I do not think he will address 2A because he knows 2A supporters are overwelmingly GOP. No need to strengthen 2A via an executive order or memo to the State Police Superintendent. If he was really pro 2A, he would call a press conference and send the memo. He is not extreme right, he is middle of the road.

 

[RoadDawg]

FYI. Craig's running mate, Jeannie Haddaway has recently been appointed to the position of Hogan's Chief of Staff. She is 100% 2A and carry friendly.

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It sure would be nice with her in his ear... a couple more months to a year out, with her dropping hints... We could make some progress in a semi covert sort of way...

 

[Mr H]

It sure would be nice with her in his ear... a couple more months to a year out, with her dropping hints... We could make some progress in a semi covert sort of way...

The best part (as was discussed in the MSI general meeting yesterday), is that our people are in conversations with Hogan's staff, and legislators are beginning to seek our .orgs' input.

Chances to move forward, that we've never had before.

 

[Applehd]

It sure would be nice with her in his ear... a couple more months to a year out, with her dropping hints... We could make some progress in a semi covert sort of way...

Easy now... or you will branded as a Secret Squirrel.

 

[RoadDawg]

The best part (as was discussed in the MSI general meeting yesterday), is that our people are in conversations with Hogan's staff, and legislators are beginning to seek our .orgs' input.

Chances to move forward, that we've never had before.

On the surface... one must realize just how much is settled beneath it.

Easy now... or you will branded as a Secret Sqirrel.

Only by those who have not a frikkin clue. And all they wanna do is eat deez nutz anyway.

 

[redeemed.man]

And that is appreciated. But the HPRB is not where the answer lies. As long as the " law " is G&S Aprehended Danger then it will be status quo may issue. May issue is an automatic 14th Amendment violation. I can't understand why most can't see this. As long as the law is uncontested it will stand no matter the board makeup. They just remove the people not falling in line and replace them with those that will. The law must be contested.

Clearly you are passionate about this but one small detail you appear to have missed is that this particular SCOTUS sucks. Roberts is a sell out. Be careful what you ask for because you might just get it. I don't want this particular supreme court to take a case that impacts nationwide carry rights because they are very likely to rule against us. This would set us back tremendously. These are activist judges who have shown an inclination to rule with the political winds. The few wise members on the court have not allowed any additional 2A cases to get before them because they know it would be a loss for the COTUS.

 

[redeemed.man]

Full disclosure, I did NOT vote for Hogan but I liked most everything he has done thus far except his position on the redline and the 2nd Amendment. If he shores up his position on 2nd Amendment, he has my vote in the next election m

You voted for Brown? Sad......... Very sad............ You deserve a dunce hat and an extended time out in the corner.

 

[redeemed.man]

*Cough* Executive Order *cough cough *

Oh you want him to act like Obama?

Let's hope he has more respect for the rule of law than our current POTUS has.

 

[redeemed.man]

IDK, he doesn't sound like he is driving in the left lane, just like he is frustrated because he isn't independently wealthy; Gura, SAF, and anyone else who won't listen isn't swooping in to advance his ideas; and that no one else has volunteered the next several years of their life and all associated expenses to prove his point. The argument has some merit, but so does hoping I will win the lottery Wednesday night. If that happens, maybe problem solved.

Well if I win you can quit your day job because I will fund you as the attorney for the case.....

 

[Schipperke]

The best part (as was discussed in the MSI general meeting yesterday), is that our people are in conversations with Hogan's staff, and legislators are beginning to seek our .orgs' input.

Chances to move forward, that we've never had before.

Day one deux

 

[Brooklyn]

I'm unable to put out any money as my income has stopped since November. I can't go into details as to why, but as soon as my income returns I will apply for a CCW permit the way I suggested. This way a harm is created. I will be more than happy to lose that money for required training and the application fees. This is the part I can do. I/we need an attorney who is willing to take this case pro bono representing me and all those who agree to apply with me. We can't wait for a politician to save us. We must act on our own to enjoy the same rights as those who live in the United States. I'm speaking to everyone when I say I've lurked here long enough to see the defeatist attitudes, the excuses, and any other reason but action.

So you want a personal hand out? Or a group rate? How about we just pool our resources and litigate.. Just like we have allways done.

 

[Brooklyn]

I guess my argument is falling on BGOS ears. I can't fix it as one, but we can fix it United.

Please...stop saying foolish things. Its not like we're going to take the bait.

 

[Brooklyn]

No, SCOTUS granted cert because it was a 14th Amendment issue. Just as my recommendation this issue be a 14th Amendment issue and not a 2nd Amendment issue. Remember Wollard issues were 2nd and 14th Amendments, but they heard only the 2nd Amendment part. Lastly, BGOS goes to anyone who has a defeatist attitude, not to just one person.

Still not taking the bait.

 

[Brooklyn]

The game is rigged. I understand the game.

And still not taking the bait.

Far winds and following seas.