Late model gen 1 Glock 17

[DanGuy48]

I was reading about Glocks, since I have a couple, and discovered that the Gen 1 models are apparently being viewed as becoming collectible. I looked at my 17 I've had for decades and discovered it is apparently a late model Gen 1. It has the single frame pin but the grip stippling is not continuous like on the original. I've been using the 17 recently but am now thinking that maybe I should retire it to the safe and use something else. I do have a few guns that are safe queens and will sell some day for the money in them. Does anyone think that early Glocks might actually appreciate any further?

 

[RoadDawg]

I was reading about Glocks, since I have a couple, and discovered that the Gen 1 models are apparently being viewed as becoming collectible. I looked at my 17 I've had for decades and discovered it is apparently a late model Gen 1. It has the single frame pin but the grip stippling is not continuous like on the original. I've been using the 17 recently but am now thinking that maybe I should retire it to the safe and use something else. I do have a few guns that are safe queens and will sell some day for the money in them. Does anyone think that early Glocks might actually appreciate any further?

That is difficult to speculate on... The original Glocks are the first successful polymer frame pistols. But they also are very durable... So will they be collected? I will say maybe is a better guess than not.

 

[StantonCree]

If it was a Gen1 19 I'd say box it up. The orange peel grip is kind of cool and commanding a little more nostalgia money but IMHO it's never going to be a Ithica 1911

 

[Biggfoot44]

Eventually when anything gets old enough , it will develope a degree of collector intrest. But if you've been shooting it , no longer unfired/ NIB. Unless you're talking 5K rds/month shooting it still should make little difference. If you change sights or trigger internals , keep the stock ones.

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

Eventually when anything gets old enough , it will develope a degree of collector intrest. But if you've been shooting it , no longer unfired/ NIB. Unless you're talking 5K rds/month shooting it still should make little difference. If you change sights or trigger internals , keep the stock ones.

For a second I blurred...I thought you might be describing Lou's "special purpose" tool...

 

[RoadDawg]

For a second I blurred...I thought you might be describing Lou's "special purpose" tool...

Leave his Sarah Palin doll out of this...

 

[redeemed.man]

I was reading about Glocks, since I have a couple, and discovered that the Gen 1 models are apparently being viewed as becoming collectible. I looked at my 17 I've had for decades and discovered it is apparently a late model Gen 1. It has the single frame pin but the grip stippling is not continuous like on the original. I've been using the 17 recently but am now thinking that maybe I should retire it to the safe and use something else. I do have a few guns that are safe queens and will sell some day for the money in them. Does anyone think that early Glocks might actually appreciate any further?

Never going to be collectable sell it to me cheap. LOL

 

[303_enfield]

Gen 1 G17's with the pencil barrel and original parts bring a little bit. A Gen 1 G19 (frame marked 17) brings money. Heck Gen 1 an 2 pre-ban magazines bring $50-75.

 

[303_enfield]

I was reading about Glocks, since I have a couple, and discovered that the Gen 1 models are apparently being viewed as becoming collectible. I looked at my 17 I've had for decades and discovered it is apparently a late model Gen 1. It has the single frame pin but the grip stippling is not continuous like on the original. I've been using the 17 recently but am now thinking that maybe I should retire it to the safe and use something else. I do have a few guns that are safe queens and will sell some day for the money in them. Does anyone think that early Glocks might actually appreciate any further?

Stippling not continuous sounds like a Gen 2. They are single pin. Look at the pictures here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock
http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/77166.jpg

What about a nice Gen 1 G17 for under $500 ($475)
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_88/1...th_lots_of_original_parts____475_shipped.html

 

[Boss94]

That is difficult to speculate on... The original Glocks are the first successful polymer frame pistols. But they also are very durable... So will they be collected? I will say maybe is a better guess than not.

I could be wrong and may be. But I was thinking the HK VP70Z predated the gen 1 glock ? Either way the gen 1 glocks where a great pistol! I miss my gen 1 glock 17L! !

 

[StantonCree]

I could be wrong and may be. But I was thinking the HK VP70Z predated the gen 1 glock ? Either way the gen 1 glocks where a great pistol! I miss my gen 1 glock 17L! !

A1Uniform has that exact gun for sale

 

[redeemed.man]

I could be wrong and may be. But I was thinking the HK VP70Z predated the gen 1 glock ? Either way the gen 1 glocks where a great pistol! I miss my gen 1 glock 17L! !

He said successful, LOL


just kidding that is a great gun also.

 

[RoadDawg]

He said successful, LOL


just kidding that is a great gun also.

Yes I did and for that exact reason...
The HK VP70Z was in production from 1970 to 1989... And while it predate the Glock by 12 years, it never came anywhere close to the success that the Gaston Glock design enjoys. It did not catch on as a popular item for military or police use... even though it had a selector switch for three round bursts that produce a 2200 PPM rate of fire.

It has been said that in designing the Glock Pistol, Gaston Glock review features from every major pistol manufactured in the world and chose the features he believed would best fit in his polymer design. At the time of his design, he had already logged thirty = years in the business of polymer injection molded products. He got it right... and the rest is history.

 

[A1Uni]

A1Uniform has that exact gun for sale

Yup, compensated and with a guide rod laser. :

 

[Boss94]

Yup, compensated and with a guide rod laser. :

Sent you a pm on it

 

[DanGuy48]

Stippling not continuous sounds like a Gen 2. They are single pin. Look at the pictures here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock
http://www.gunslot.com/files/gunslot/images/77166.jpg

What about a nice Gen 1 G17 for under $500 ($475)
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_88/1...th_lots_of_original_parts____475_shipped.html

Hmmm, interesting. According to this guy (link), some Gen 1 pistols had the discontinuous grip stippling but, according to him, the single frame pin defines the Gen 1, all other generations having two. It'd be interesting to know who's correct.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QsYeotfvuzY

 

[DanGuy48]

Oh, and just for grins and giggles, speaking of Glock trivia. I thought something was wrong with my gun or magazines, I have 4, three regular and 1 extended. NONE of them will drop from the magazine well if they have any rounds left in them. As soon as they are empty, they drop fine. The magazine will release and protrude slightly but you have to pull it out with your fingertips if there are rounds in it. It won't shake out either. These are the gen 1 magazines, the ones with the row of small dimples, depressions, whatever, down the side. I read that this was initially a design request from European customers and that it was dropped later at the request of the American market. If what I read is to be believed, it's a feature instead of a problem.

 

[Blaster229]

Been discussed befo. Rumor/story has it it was an Austrian feature designed that way. Apparently Americans hated it because we train to "drop free" mags on reloads (not sure where that came from), so then Glock decided to make drop free, steel lined mags that don't expand when loaded with ammo.

It's a terrible "feature", a mag that doesn't drop free. I'd like to hear why you think an empty mag that doesn't drop is a good thing.

 

[RoadDawg]

Been discussed befo. Rumor/story has it it was an Austrian feature designed that way. Apparently Americans hated it because we train to "drop free" mags on reloads (not sure where that came from), so then Glock decided to make drop free, steel lined mags that don't expand when loaded with ammo.

It's a terrible "feature", a mag that doesn't drop free. I'd like to hear why you think an empty mag that doesn't drop is a good thing.

We were informed by Glock, that the european military wanted a mag that stayed in the well the release would be accidentally depressed by the soldier.

The first Glock 17 issued to me, in 1990, was delivered with the old style poly mags. The steel lined mags were issued a couple years later. We were trained on the "Rip, Rack, Check and Go" method of clearing malfunctions. "Rip" meaning "physically pull the mag from the well". After that we had a problem for a while with the followers breaking when the empty mags were dropped during training. That issue also was eventually addressed by Glock.

 

[DanGuy48]

Been discussed befo. Rumor/story has it it was an Austrian feature designed that way. Apparently Americans hated it because we train to "drop free" mags on reloads (not sure where that came from), so then Glock decided to make drop free, steel lined mags that don't expand when loaded with ammo.

It's a terrible "feature", a mag that doesn't drop free. I'd like to hear why you think an empty mag that doesn't drop is a good thing.

Oh, I'm not at all sure it's a desirable feature for anyone, just find it interesting that it was apparently designed that way. Personally, I'd rather it drop when I press the release, regardless of what's in it. It's an odd thing because, although the magazine does not drop free, it does disengage and I'm sure an attempt to cycle the slide in that condition would result in FTF. So if the soldiers did it accidentally, they wouldn't probably know it and then they have a malfunction to clear. However it's pretty obvious when your mag drops completely out of the grip.