Powder Available Thread

[Mike3888]

Yes sir, and he did the transfer for me. Haven't been there in 25 years. That's where I got my safe.

 

[plinkerton]

I found a new secret stash in MD and not eve far from home.

GET OUT OF MY BASEMENT!

 

[6Den]

I just posted in classifieds for some leftover AA-5744 I have for trade. Please make offers.

 

[Swearengen]

Cabela's has Titegroup, CFE Pistol and Universal Clays in stock

35FLAT gets you $5 shipping on unders over $100 (still pay hazmat though)

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoo...=SBC;MMcat104792580;cat104761080;cat333152280

 

[Doctor_M]

I got 12 inches of fresh powder yesterday.... but the ballistics are very poor and it gets my primers wet. Did take advantage of the day at home and do some reloading though (with unique... not the stuff falling from the sky). Hope everyone stayed safe yesterday and to got play on their reloading benches.

 

[Doobie]

Someone I know is getting out of reloading, lives in a free state, and has various powders still sealed up. H322, H335, W748, IMR3031 are just a few that I may be able to obtain. Which powder is best suited to 223 and why?

 

[Traveler]

H335 has a lot of reloading data available for it. Great metering, works for 30-06 as well.

RAMSHOT TAC is no slouch either.

Those are two darlings of the 223 / 5.56 reloading crowd.

 

[Mike3888]

H335 has a lot of reloading data available for it. Great metering, works for 30-06 as well.

RAMSHOT TAC is no slouch either.

Those are two darlings of the 223 / 5.56 reloading crowd.

Yeah, what Traveler said. I got hp38 for trade on that h322.

 

[dendog]

Anyone seen any Vihtavuori N320?

 

[mtlcafan79]

I haven't seen any other than a quick blip on gunbot a while back. Never seen it in the wild. I'd like to try some for suppressed 9.

+1 for H335 mentioned above.

 

[Doobie]

Thanks for the replies everyone

 

[Uncle Duke]

Someone I know is getting out of reloading, lives in a free state, and has various powders still sealed up. H322, H335, W748, IMR3031 are just a few that I may be able to obtain. Which powder is best suited to 223 and why?

Depends upon what "best" means to you. Also depends upon what your particular rifle prefers, and what your goals are. Tight groups, temperature sensitivity, ease of metering, availability, versatility across various other cartridges.....some or all can come into play in your search for "best".

All of these 4 powders are suitable for .223 Remington. Two of the four are ball powders that meter very well. IMR 3031 is an extruded powder. It won't meter as well as ball necessarily, but then again, if you're trickling your rifle charges with an eye toward absolute consistency rather than ease of metering, you likely won't care. H322 is an extruded also, but the extrusions are said to be very fine. I can't say as I have no personal experience with it, but it is reputed to be an excellent powder also. I can say that I have loaded 3 of the 4 powders you mention with very good results.

Me personally, I really like W748. It works very well in my .223 bolt guns as well as my 22-250. It is claimed to burn at a somewhat lower flame temperature than most powders, which if true would be an added bonus in terms if extended barrel life. True or not, I tend to get consistently excellent results with this powder.

Thing is though, it isn't always the case that you can find what you want. Sometimes you'll know what you want, but you may have to take what you can get. While more a problem with pistol powder currently, I've seen times when my preferred rifle powders aren't easily found as well. For this reason, if I were you? I'd grab a pound of each, and a good notebook. In addition to helping your buddy to liquidate some stock, you'll be better prepared if (read when) your favorite and usual powder isn't readily available.

 

[Doobie]

Depends upon what "best" means to you. Also depends upon what your particular rifle prefers, and what your goals are. Tight groups, temperature sensitivity, ease of metering, availability, versatility across various other cartridges.....some or all can come into play in your search for "best".

All of these 4 powders are suitable for .223 Remington. Two of the four are ball powders that meter very well. IMR 3031 is an extruded powder. It won't meter as well as ball necessarily, but then again, if you're trickling your rifle charges with an eye toward absolute consistency rather than ease of metering, you likely won't care. H322 is an extruded also, but the extrusions are said to be very fine. I can't say as I have no personal experience with it, but it is reputed to be an excellent powder also. I can say that I have loaded 3 of the 4 powders you mention with very good results.

Me personally, I really like W748. It works very well in my .223 bolt guns as well as my 22-250. It is claimed to burn at a somewhat lower flame temperature than most powders, which if true would be an added bonus in terms if extended barrel life. True or not, I tend to get consistently excellent results with this powder.

Thing is though, it isn't always the case that you can find what you want. Sometimes you'll know what you want, but you may have to take what you can get. While more a problem with pistol powder currently, I've seen times when my preferred rifle powders aren't easily found as well. For this reason, if I were you? I'd grab a pound of each, and a good notebook. In addition to helping your buddy to liquidate some stock, you'll be better prepared if (read when) your favorite and usual powder isn't readily available.

Thanks for the helpful info. I guess best to me is tight groups with the least sensitivity to temps along with longer barrel life. Second would be versatility across various calibers. Metering would be last at this point as I take my time and trickle every charge. I am pretty slow at loading, but I am trying my best to be safe and consistent.

 

[Pinecone]

Tight groups can be had with many powders.

Low temp sensitivity is based on the power. The best are the Hodgdon Extreme Series (Varget, H4895, etc). Alliant has some new powders out that are supposed to also have low temperature related variation.

WW748 has a lot of velocity change with temp change.

H335 is basically the powder used by the military to load 5.56. In the begining, H335 WAS surplus powder, but after that dried up, Hodgdon had it made to the same specs.

Barrel life is also based on how high of a charge of any given powder you use.

However, in precision shooting, barrels are considered expendable. Shoot until the accuracy falls and cannot be brought back, then replace.

 

[Uncle Duke]

Thanks for the helpful info. I guess best to me is tight groups with the least sensitivity to temps along with longer barrel life. Second would be versatility across various calibers. Metering would be last at this point as I take my time and trickle every charge. I am pretty slow at loading, but I am trying my best to be safe and consistent.

You can certainly find tight groups with any of these powders. And when compared to a number of the overbore .22 center fires, your .223 Rem. can generally be expected to offer comparatively good barrel life. Temperature induced velocity changes are indeed a fact with powders, but your concerns there needn't be worrisome at the more "typical" ranges for most people of a couple hundred yards or less. For the guys who are really reaching out to extended ranges, it's a whole different ball game with a whole different set of concerns generally, with temperature sensitivity being but one. No need to sweat that. Just be aware of that variable.

One last thought. If "slow" to you means safe and consistent and good quality ammunition, there isn't a damned thing wrong with slow.

 

[hodgepodge]

If anyone sees any Trail Boss, let me know!

 

[lmorrison17]

If anyone sees any Trail Boss, let me know!

me too

 

[Melnic]

My da said he saw 8lb lil gun at timonium $195

 

[BradMacc82]

If anyone needs a pound of Reloader 17, I have a brand new bottle of it - bought it by mistake. Was looking for R-15/R-19, and got a case of temporary dyslexia...

 

[browning guy]

Please please if any on finds accurate 2520 please let me know!