WaPo gun rights and Hogan

[BradyWarrior]

I noticed MDA MD was yacking about this today: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...8cda50-b15f-11e4-827f-93f454140e2b_story.html

It's riddled with technical inaccuracies and bias. But what else would you expect? Kudos to the pro 2A folks quoted. You represented well.

 

[dblas]

The reporter was at 2A Tuesday and did all of her interviews there.

 

[fabsroman]

The article isn't that bad. It mentions that a good amount of Republicans were sent to the General Assembly this year. Hopefully, the remaining Democrats take notice of that and understand that gun control is part of the reason, albeit not the only reason, that there are more Republicans sitting in Annapolis right now. In another 2 years, we get the chance to send even more there.

Like a good politician, Hogan isn't promising the moon to anybody just yet. We need time to see how this all plays out and exactly who has done what, or failed to do anything.

 

[Jim12]

The article isn't that bad. It mentions that a good amount of Republicans were sent to the General Assembly this year. Hopefully, the remaining Democrats take notice of that and understand that gun control is part of the reason, albeit not the only reason, that there are more Republicans sitting in Annapolis right now. In another 2 years, we get the chance to send even more there.

Like a good politician, Hogan isn't promising the moon to anybody just yet. We need time to see how this all plays out and exactly who has done what, or failed to do anything.

The Democrats rarely (if ever - more like never) admit that their policy was wrong.

They usually only lament that they didn't get their message across (often blaming Fox and Republicans), and that if the (stupid) public had understood what they were trying to do for the children, they would have won.

There are many words to describe it, e.g. hubris, arrogance, conceit, etc.

Meanwhile, they'll work on their "message" and, of course, exploit every tragedy and crisis.

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

Realists....Idealists. Truth...Fiction. Logic....Emotion. Pragmatic...Philosophical.

Perspective, ain't it grand?

 

[Clovis]

The article isn't that bad. It mentions that a good amount of Republicans were sent to the General Assembly this year. Hopefully, the remaining Democrats take notice of that and understand that gun control is part of the reason, albeit not the only reason, that there are more Republicans sitting in Annapolis right now. In another 2 years, we get the chance to send even more there.

Like a good politician, Hogan isn't promising the moon to anybody just yet. We need time to see how this all plays out and exactly who has done what, or failed to do anything.

Sorry Fabs, it is 4 years we have to wait to send more new folks to Annapolis, wish you were correct.

 

[Schipperke]

“The reason he got elected was because of the 2A [Second Amendment] community,” Jacqueline said of Hogan

 

[Norton]

“The reason he got elected was because of the 2A [Second Amendment] community,” Jacqueline said of Hogan

Yeah….I wish people wouldn't say that because A) It's not true, and B) it marginalizes him as being a "puppet of the NRA".

I think it carries far more weight to say, "He was elected because of the consistently flawed policies of the Democrat monopoly on power in Maryland and the citizens of Maryland recognize that real change was needed."

 

[Mr H]

In reality, that's not inaccurate... But it should probably include the words "in part"

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

It's much more likely that the electorate voted against the status quo and the incompetent idiots who delivered it. Hogan absolutely benefitted by the political backlash that MOM and Bumbling Brown perpetrated on the state. What an incredible statement the voters made in the very liberal state of MD. Some might even say that you could have run a goldfish against the Dems and won. That they chose to run dumb arse Brown was either the height of Dem arrogance OR the depth of political depravity (perhaps some calculated strategy??) as they INTENDED to put the Republicans front and center in the midst of the horrendous fiscal mess they left...

You might have your aluminum foil wrapped a wee bit tight if you credit 2A as THE issue that put Hogan in office. You might be grasping at straws and out of touch (questionable perspective) if you think he's beholden to 2A or that 2A will keep him in office. It's one of many things and AIN'T IMO A CAUSE AND EFFECT DEAL IN THIS CASE.

 

[Mr H]

Honestly, the big role 2A played in the election was in how Brownstain managed to overplay and misinterpret our positions, and managed to blow it huge.

 

[Schipperke]

Honestly, the big role 2A played in the election was in how Brownstain managed to overplay and misinterpret our positions, and managed to blow it huge.

Brown's assault rifle piece, one will never know how many votes that won for him verse against him. I think it was a bad ploy for Brown because his base already knew (?) he was anti gun. So one could wish that ad actually did instigate more votes for Hogan, but gun issues I'll argue were negligible to his win. Follow the money (the state takes from your pocket)

You might have your aluminum foil wrapped a wee bit tight if you credit 2A as THE issue that put Hogan in office. You might be grasping at straws and out of touch (questionable perspective) if you think he's beholden to 2A or that 2A will keep him in office. It's one of many things and AIN'T IMO A CAUSE AND EFFECT DEAL IN THIS CASE.

 

[MJD438]

Things I have learned from past rallies and casual observation - I will not talk to a reporter on the record or on the topic. I had a pleasant conversation with the redhead reporter during the debates on FSA 2013, but it was centered on her deployed fiance (a brother Devil) and not on any of the events of the day. The questions asked are always open-ended/leading and appear couched in such a way as to encourage/dig for a lovely quote to be used against our community.

 

[Patrick]

Yeah….I wish people wouldn't say that because A) It's not true, and B) it marginalizes him as being a "puppet of the NRA".

I think it carries far more weight to say, "He was elected because of the consistently flawed policies of the Democrat monopoly on power in Maryland and the citizens of Maryland recognize that real change was needed."

Yes, that was less than good. Especially since it was associated with MSI. Also, why the hell are people out telecasting ways to make life hard on us?

 

[fabsroman]

Yes, that was less than good. Especially since it was associated with MSI.

Believe it was an officer of MSI nonetheless.

 

[dblas]

The article isn't that bad. It mentions that a good amount of Republicans were sent to the General Assembly this year. Hopefully, the remaining Democrats take notice of that and understand that gun control is part of the reason, albeit not the only reason, that there are more Republicans sitting in Annapolis right now. In another 2 years, we get the chance to send even more there.

Like a good politician, Hogan isn't promising the moon to anybody just yet. We need time to see how this all plays out and exactly who has done what, or failed to do anything.

Ummm, it's 4 years, 2018 for the legislature and Governor.

 

[Hjaalmarch]

1. Whatever happened to that issue with the cops in uniform, stating how Hogan will make their job more dangerous?

2.Does Brown still owe for that huge loan he took out a week before the election?

3. What does everyone make of Hogan continually stating that he's not going to change the laws on the books? Clearly Hogan is better than Brown, but I wish he'd at least hint at the fact that he's going to ease some restrictions.

4. I liked the article, it was pretty fair.

 

[QuebecoisWolf]

Yeah….I wish people wouldn't say that because A) It's not true, and B) it marginalizes him as being a "puppet of the NRA".

I think it carries far more weight to say, "He was elected because of the consistently flawed policies of the Democrat monopoly on power in Maryland and the citizens of Maryland recognize that real change was needed."

Pretty much this. In the last four years, the Maryland Dems have managed to piss off a truly bewildering number of people ranging from liquor store owners to landowners to the jerrymandered people in Anne Arundel and Westen Maryland. Most people who voted for Hogan on account of 2A weren't ever going to vote for Brown, but in an election where Brown couldn't get turnout in the counties where the Dems pander, every Republican vote buried him deeper.

 

[dblas]

1. Whatever happened to that issue with the cops in uniform, stating how Hogan will make their job more dangerous?

2.Does Brown still owe for that huge loan he took out a week before the election?

3. What does everyone make of Hogan continually stating that he's not going to change the laws on the books? Clearly Hogan is better than Brown, but I wish he'd at least hint at the fact that he's going to ease some restrictions.

4. I liked the article, it was pretty fair.

#3. The answer is basic middle school civics. The Governor does not make the laws, the legislature does. So, the Governor has no mechanism for changing the laws.

If the legislature wants to pass bills into law that ease restrictions, then I, and a whole host of others, believe that the Governor would certainly sign those bills, or at a minimum, let them "sunset" into law. In Maryland, once a bill is passed by the legislature, it is not mandatory for the Governor to sign it to become law.

 

[Brooklyn]

Yeah….I wish people wouldn't say that because A) It's not true, and B) it marginalizes him as being a "puppet of the NRA".

I think it carries far more weight to say, "He was elected because of the consistently flawed policies of the Democrat monopoly on power in Maryland and the citizens of Maryland recognize that real change was needed."

What they could say is that they personally got involved in a big way,and did many others, including lots of ground team volunteers, precisely because of 2a, and that made a difference,

They could also leave it to op force to challenge the claim,since even doing so weakens them and takes them off message.

Or we could echo thier message that 2a was a total non issue.
Then, even if we get more R support there is no need for them to help us since we told them we have no influence.

The volunteers that worked in this campaign made it possible for the Republicans to make a strong showing.. and they know it.